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k9wrangler
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Posted - 04/02/2021 : 12:36:55 PM
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Contemplating a screen door for a general store/ rural post office/ gas station
Any one ever made one? If so how? Not even a guess here. The kind with an advertising door push.
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Ensign
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Posted - 04/02/2021 : 1:05:47 PM
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Karl, Vector cut has some laser cut screen doors. Though I think Dave at Vector cut has made his stuff available thru FOS scale models. Here's what they look like, with the fine screen that comes with them.

If you can't order these screen doors from FOS I would be more than happy to send you one of my doors that I have with some screen as well, just send me a PM with you address, and I will send you one of the styles that you like.
Here's how one of the screen doors that I used from Vector cut looked on my farmhouse

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Orionvp17
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Posted - 04/02/2021 : 1:06:02 PM
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Try a thin door frame with "screen" from a piece of discarded black or grey sheer women's hose sandwiched in between the inside and outside frame. Glue the other frame on and paint....
And please let us know if this approach actually works! I've seen it mentioned, and haven't tried it yet. 
Pete in Michigan
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Rail and Tie
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Posted - 04/02/2021 : 1:35:09 PM
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For the screen, you can use silk screen mesh.
It is very fine and paintable if needed.
Search amazon for "silk screen mesh".
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jbvb
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Posted - 04/02/2021 : 1:42:37 PM
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I made these removable window screens using styrene strip and material from a holiday package ribbon:

I assembled the frame atop the ribbon material. When I wetted the joints with MEK, that also bonded the ribbon material to the frame.
[edit] The holiday ribbon looked a lot like that provided by Vector Cut/FOS.
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spyder62
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Posted - 04/02/2021 : 2:42:58 PM
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Google search for HO storm doors comes up with some rich
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sgtbob
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Posted - 04/02/2021 : 2:53:44 PM
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I had a screen door in one of my structures that everyone who saw it thought it had very fine screen in it. It didn't.
I used a piece of clear styrene cut to fit the door frame but before I glued it together I took a piece of fine sandpaper and lightly scratched the plastic at about a 45 degree angle. Then I did the same at 45 degrees the other way (90 degrees to the first scratches). You have to go very lightly with this.
It looks more real than any oversized screening.
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Posted - 04/02/2021 : 4:32:11 PM
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Like Greg shows, I use a ribbon you get from Michaels store or Joanne Fabrics. This one is a silver gray color, but you can get black as well. This is what I use for all my windows and door screens. It is called "Offray 2.25"x9' Quest Sheers Wired Edge Ribbon". You just cut the size you need from in-between the wired edges.
 
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Bill Gill
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Posted - 04/02/2021 : 5:31:59 PM
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Karl, I'm facing the exactly the same situation. Part of my layout is set in late summer. There is a general store/Post Office/gas station with both doors wide open to let out the heat,unfortunately it lets in flies and other bugs.
I want a pair of thin screen doors that I can position closed or open or in between. Like you, I want doors with an ad on the push bar across the door, probably for some brand of bread.
The two styles of doors on the right in Greg's post look the most like what I imagine, adding a pressed metal bread sign across the center bar. But I don't think either will fit in the front opening.
One option would be to cut a frame out of scale 1" styrene sheet and glue a fine mesh across the back, though I haven't figured out how to hide the edge of the screen if one of the screen doors is open and seen on edge.
Rail and Tie's suggestion of using silk screen mesh is a good one. You can probably get scraps for free from a local screen printer and some meshes are really fine.
So is Bob's suggestion of gently sanding thin clear styrene in two different directions, 90 degrees apart. That can look very good even in HO and would add some strength to an otherwise very thin door.
I have also had good luck using the fine mesh (Nylon?) that some tea bags are made of. I have found that different brands of tea have meshes of quite different fineness. On the left edge of the photo you can see the blue screen door on the coal company's office. The door is from some old Model Power kit. The screen is teabag mesh. Since adding that screen I found an even fine mesh teabag, but the one in place looks ok.

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Posted - 04/02/2021 : 8:56:20 PM
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The Portable CP station that I just completed a couple months ago came with a screen door:

The screen material was white tule or fine fabric mesh (I suspect you can find it in Michaels or Hobby Lobby) That was cut to size and sandwiched between the two door parts.

The finished product looks pretty convincing to me.
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k9wrangler
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Posted - 04/02/2021 : 9:11:41 PM
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Thank you all for these fine suggestions, gee, now I’ll have to see what I can conjure up.
Thanks again...
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Posted - 04/02/2021 : 9:23:17 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Orionvp17
Try a thin door frame with "screen" from a piece of discarded black or grey sheer women's hose sandwiched in between the inside and outside frame. Glue the other frame on and paint....
And please let us know if this approach actually works! I've seen it mentioned, and haven't tried it yet. 
Pete in Michigan
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BurleyJim
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Posted - 04/03/2021 : 12:59:54 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Ensign
Karl, Vector cut has some laser cut screen doors. Though I think Dave at Vector cut has made his stuff available thru FOS scale models. Here's what they look like, with the fine screen that comes with them.

If you can't order these screen doors from FOS I would be more than happy to send you one of my doors that I have with some screen as well, just send me a PM with you address, and I will send you one of the styles that you like.
Here's how one of the screen doors that I used from Vector cut looked on my farmhouse

Greg
Greg, Is VECTOR CUT back in business? His website is blank. I was looking for hinges 2 years ago from him.
Jim
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Ensign
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Posted - 04/03/2021 : 09:25:35 AM
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Jim, it doesn't look like it. I even went too FOS to see if I could find his products but could not find anything from him. It's really to bad, he offered some great products! Sorry to get your hopes up.
Greg
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Pennman
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Posted - 04/03/2021 : 1:12:25 PM
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Karl,
I am not at home now to upload a picture, but if you need one, let me know.
There was a LASERkit by American Model Builders, - Screen Doors and Windows No. 311 ( for Kit #123 Corydon Gen. Store ) I have one and can download the picture later if you need it.
Rich
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k9wrangler
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Posted - 04/03/2021 : 2:56:28 PM
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Rich;
Love to see it, thanks.
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