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deemery
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Posted - 12/31/2020 :  1:25:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know I've seen pictures and drawings of D&RG narrow gauge coal "facilities" that consisted of a box on a trestle, with coal shoved into and back out of the box. Does anyone know what those are called? More importantly, does anyone happen to know the dimensions (height above track, length, width) of one of these? A quick search of the RRMagIndex didn't produce helpful results.

Thanks in advance!

(I've come to the conclusion there is no way I can fit my MRH small coal tower in the space available by the switcher turntable. So I'm thinking about alternatives that will fit into that very constrained space. And that means I might want to sell the tower model, since it's way too small for the eventual engine terminal that I'll build sometime this decade :-( )

dave
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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 12/31/2020 :  4:47:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dave,

Berg’s “Buildings and Structures of American Railroads” has plans for some small coal facilities, including — I believe — the sort of platform you have in mind.

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nnc1.ar00877867&view=1up&seq=5

Mike



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CNE1899
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Posted - 12/31/2020 :  5:49:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dave,

I am putting together a small layout that will be a small railroad.
Here are some of the coaling stations I'm considering.








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deemery
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Posted - 12/31/2020 :  6:20:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks! I knew I'd get some good inspiration by asking. Interesting 2 stall roundhouse in that last photo, too.

dave


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CNE1899
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Posted - 12/31/2020 :  7:59:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dave,

The pictures are from the Trainweb. http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/CPR_Bruce/BRANCHES_2.htm

Scott



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Empire of the Air
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Posted - 01/01/2021 :  1:21:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dave,

Some railroads referred to them as a "coal wharf". The HABS/HAER site has drawings of the DL&W wharf that was in the Scranton yards. They refer to it as a "coal trestle."

Link:
https://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/hhh.pa1903.sheet.00001a/?co=hh

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Wallace



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darrylhuffman
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Posted - 01/03/2021 :  11:55:05 AM  Show Profile  Visit darrylhuffman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What a great source of information. This forum is great.



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jbvb
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Posted - 01/03/2021 :  1:00:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit jbvb's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In a discussion elsewhere, I'd suggested a crane as shown by Scott, located between a small coal wharf and an ash-pit. That way, one crane could unload coal, then load ash into the same gondola car.


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deemery
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Posted - 01/03/2021 :  2:16:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The one thing I'm wondering about is the advisability of an ash dump right next to the coal. That seems to be a bit risky (fire) to me. But yeah, that would fit in the available space quite nicely, I think. I'll need to draw up some plans and do a mock-up. Plus I have a Rusty Stump crane kit (now in Rail-Scale Models line) that would be perfect for the crane part.

dave


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TRAINS1941
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Posted - 01/03/2021 :  3:12:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That looks like it would be a nice fit Dave.

Besides that's why they have fire hoses!!


Jerry

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Tintic Range
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Posted - 01/09/2021 :  11:02:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another option is to just have a track for a gondola and a small steam or air loader. That's what the Central Pacific did in many locations, including the helper terminal at Terrace Utah. The Virginia & Truckee inherited one of the CPRR coal loaders and used it in Carson City. Rio Grande Models makes a kit for these, so whenever the new owners make them available again this is a possibility.


Terrace's coal loader can be seen at left:



Edited by - Tintic Range on 01/09/2021 11:06:20 PM

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