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danpickard
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Posted - 02/03/2020 :  06:32:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit danpickard's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BigLars

Dan,
Thanks for the advice. I was going to order a few connectors as a test for one piece of Aluminum tube that I can source locally.

Is this is what the rest of the modules were designed like?






Hi Larry,
If you remove the extra extended height pieces (as you have marked as the 4 brown labeled sections in an earlier image), that is what the remaining Dolly Varden module frames look like.

One thing to remember with the aluminium framing, is the less interruptions or joins there are withing a straight length the better. I have seen modellers add all sorts of extra cross bars with the intention to strengthen the module, but all they do is break the integrity of the straight length of metal, by putting a weak point (ie the plastic joiner) in the middle of the length, which is the first place the module will flex and go out of shape. If it is necessary to add a join in the middle of a straight section (as we did on this central Dolly Varden module), I'd try to make it on a section that is reinforced with a timber fascia.

Cheers,
Dan Pickard


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BigLars
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Posted - 02/03/2020 :  5:48:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry Dan,
I posted the wrong new picture. This is the one I meant to post.




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danpickard
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Posted - 02/03/2020 :  8:05:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit danpickard's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thatís better, Larry. Correct as far as base, back and roof goes. The height aspect is always variable, and as a portable display, is often dictated by what the modules are intended to be transported in. We were constrained to the height of our box trailers. Modellers who own or have access to a high roof van for transport may choose to take advantage of the freedom when it comes to module height.

Cheers,
Dan Pickard


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BigLars
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Posted - 02/07/2020 :  6:16:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My first shipment of Aluminum tube and connectors arrived today. The fun begins.


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Craig H
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Posted - 02/07/2020 :  9:38:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did you order from the company in NY.


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BigLars
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Posted - 02/08/2020 :  08:33:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Did you order from the company in NY.


No one I found in Indiana that was about 30% less. 8020 Inc.
https://8020.net/fasteningmethods/quickframeconnectors.html



Edited by - BigLars on 02/08/2020 11:36:40 AM

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BigLars
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Posted - 02/08/2020 :  12:52:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Craig,

15 minutes to build a square top and bottom. Less if I did not have to cut every piece. As soon as I figure out the height it should take another 10 minutes to finish the module frame. Very easy to work with this stuff. I am going to order the rest of the pieces cut to length to save more time.




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Craig H
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Posted - 02/08/2020 :  4:53:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
NICE......looks like the same stuff I was looking at? I like that you found it at a lower price


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BigLars
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Posted - 02/08/2020 :  5:11:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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NICE......looks like the same stuff I was looking at? I like that you found it at a lower price



It is the same size as what you were looking at.
I just ordered the parts to complete my first 5 - 4' modules. They will be 36" high less 3" of foam base and 4" of valence. I will have all the parts by next Friday.

20 feet of modules for just over $300 in framing. I can live with that.



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BigLars
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Posted - 03/27/2020 :  5:44:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The first of four shadow boxes I built today are sitting on its shelf brackets.

29" total height so it will fit in the SUV 4 feet long by 19" deep.




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TRAINS1941
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Posted - 03/27/2020 :  5:57:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice looking box. Great job Larry.

Jerry

"And in the end, itís not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." A. Lincoln

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BigLars
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Posted - 03/27/2020 :  6:46:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Jerry, I hope to make more progress tomorrow.



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drmsparks
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Posted - 03/28/2020 :  09:19:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very awesome! Thanks for sharing this. Shadow boxes are where I plan on heading.....the step by step research you are doing is very helpfull.


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Craig H
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Posted - 03/28/2020 :  11:48:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Larry, Looking Good Is there going to be a valance dropped down some in the front?


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BigLars
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Posted - 03/28/2020 :  5:31:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Craig H

Larry, Looking Good Is there going to be a valance dropped down some in the front?


Yes, but not as you would expect. I am thinking of using Sandbag material and fake barbed wire. It is a WW1 RR after all.



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