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Bernd
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Posted - 09/16/2019 :  3:59:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit Bernd's Homepage  Reply with Quote
These pictures of a "used to be" coal dealer. A couple of pictures are from the internet. I don't remember which one's they are. The others are from me. I have more if interested I'll post them.

This picture faces east. The weigh scale is between the weigh house and the silos.



The holding silos. You can see where the unloading shut's were by the holes in the side of the silos.



I wonder what kind of coal they sold?



The west side of the scale house.





East side.



South side.



The scale. Somewhat obscured by years of non use.





A picture of the scale before they boarded up the windows.



Bernd
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BurleyJim
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Posted - 09/16/2019 :  4:28:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very cool! When I was kid, I remember the black guy who used to deliver coal to our 'coal bin'. He would run that wheelbarrow for what seemed like a hour back and forth from the alley to the back of our house. I'd crawl into the coal bin to hide from my brother. My mom, soon put an end to that. We 'modernized' by switching to oil heat. Those were the days!

Jim


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Dutchman
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Posted - 09/16/2019 :  6:29:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great photos. Thanks for sharing, Bernd.


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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 09/16/2019 :  6:48:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thank you for posting, Bernd. Very helpful.


Edited by - Michael Hohn on 09/16/2019 6:49:10 PM

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k9wrangler
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Posted - 09/16/2019 :  8:51:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The coal bin cylinders appeared to be built from vitrified tile. There are many structures in and around nearby Grand Ledge, MI made from that as there were several firms that made it. Workers would buy 2nds and take them home an build with them...Ver interesting building material

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Bernd
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Posted - 09/17/2019 :  10:21:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit Bernd's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here's all the pictures I have of the Bergen coal dealer, plus four from Leroy, New York.

The silos and loader.













Update 4-29-2020: For those needing to know the size of those blocks, they are 12" X 12". The concrete base is around 3ft. tall.





















The building clad in pressed metal brick work.

















Grain dealer in Leroy, New York. I believe it was on the NYC through Leroy. Harold Russell drew up plans on this structure. They are available in the Sept. 1972 Model Railroader page 46-47.









One of theses "years" I'd like to build models of either one or maybe both. Might never happen but it's always fun to dream.

Bernd


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spyder62
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Posted - 09/17/2019 :  12:48:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit spyder62's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here's my version of LeRoy if I remember right MR said it was a feed and seed not coal but may be wrong there.
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Bernd
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Posted - 09/17/2019 :  3:23:59 PM  Show Profile  Visit Bernd's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by spyder62

Here's my version of LeRoy if I remember right MR said it was a feed and seed not coal but may be wrong there.
rich


Absolutely correct Rich. It's a grain dealer. Had coal on the mind. I corrected the description. Thanks.

Bernd


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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 09/17/2019 :  5:51:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thereís no article to go with the plans so we donít have any history. The silos might have been a later addition judging from a subtle break in the roof.

The modeller could make it into a combined grain and feed dealer and coal dealer. Isnít that what weíre looking at in the photos of the silos and large building in Bergen?



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Bernd
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Posted - 09/17/2019 :  9:51:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit Bernd's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Hohn

The modeller could make it into a combined grain and feed dealer and coal dealer. Isnít that what weíre looking at in the photos of the silos and large building in Bergen?



It does look like they used the silos in Bergen as grain bins. Make's sense with the pipe going from the building to the one silo. Good catch. I always wondered why the pipe with the guy wires was there.

Bernd


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k9wrangler
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Posted - 09/17/2019 :  11:06:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The bashed corners on the metal clad building remind me of my own barn/shop that I always mow too close to.

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Philip
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Posted - 09/18/2019 :  08:31:21 AM  Show Profile  Visit Philip's Homepage  Reply with Quote
One sweet structure!

Philip



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Bill Gill
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Posted - 09/18/2019 :  08:54:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good photos Bernd, whether it might've been coal or grain. Thanks for posting.


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BurleyJim
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Posted - 09/18/2019 :  3:09:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bernd,

Looks like a 3D printing challenge, are those bricks 12" high? That would put the brickwork at 25' plus another 3'? for the base. Any guess on the diameter? I'm guessing 15-16 ft. anyway of verifying that guess? The silo tops would be a snap. Mortar lines not so much. Hmmmmm.

Jim




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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 09/18/2019 :  4:13:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Reading Anthracite sign adds a note of ambiguity with regard to function.

I think the Bergen silos are a good candidate for a printed paper wrap on cylindrical core.

Mike



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Bernd
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Posted - 09/18/2019 :  4:33:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit Bernd's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Gill

Good photos Bernd, whether it might've been coal or grain. Thanks for posting.



Friend of mine lived in Bergen for many years. he told me it was a coal dealer. Probably did grain also since it has a farming community.

Bernd


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