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Bbags
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Posted - 11/12/2003 :  2:17:32 PM  Show Profile
Hi all
I have posted this thread for anyone who is constructing or who will be constructing Quincy Salvage by Sierra West.
I know some of you who own Quincy's are now working on Railroad Camp and do not expect you to join in yet.
However Dave Grassing is awaiting the arrival of his kit today and his wife will be doing the modeling.
Also Nick has been combining Quincy's and Railroad Camp into one super diorama so there are at least 2 people who could add some input.

Maybe this will get me to open mine as I have almost completed the Challenge Project and can work on Quincy's along with Fos Drive.

So as they say in in horse racing "The horses are approaching the starting gate"


John Bagley
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NickO
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Posted - 11/12/2003 :  7:13:08 PM  Show Profile
Hi All,
As John says I'm combining Quincy's with the RRC to make one Diorama measuring 18x30 inches,a bit unwieldy I know,but it was that or two smaller dioramas joined together.I have nearly finished the Storage Shed with just the loading dock to go.Other than using Sierra Scale shingles and omitting the small door and steps I have built it as per instructions.It is all pretty straight forward with no hidden problems waiting to catch the unwary out.I have also built the tressle,but now wish I had made it a bit longer,to fit the place where it is going better.
I am thinking of making the back and side walls of lower part of the main building out of stone,similar the Dave Revelia's original,with just the front being in timber.I intent to mitre the corners of the stone wall castings to avoid any unsightly joins.If it doesn't work out I will revert back to plan A and do it all in wood.All I will have lost is three stone wall castings and as they don't cost anything to make it is of little consequence.Other than having to omit the covered drive due to lack of space, I don't intend to make any changes to what's on the box.
One thing I will say, is that I am not looking forward to painting the multiple oildrum castings as I can see it is going to be very fiddly trying to paint all the ones in the middle tidily.I also counted all the rubber tyres(tires, to you)in both Quincy's and the RRC and the figure came to nearly 70.They are going to take some losing on the diorama.



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Dave Grassing
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Posted - 11/13/2003 :  11:51:00 AM  Show Profile  Visit Dave Grassing's Homepage
Hello All - Quincy

DAY One

Ring at the door, £19.64 handed over (robbers) and clutching my prize I began opening it. Not as much as I expected inside, but nevertheless exciting! A quantity of barrels in several lots fixed together, numerous other cans, laser cut cards to enable timber strip to be fixed to, three wall pieces and the usual additions to be prepared.
Chain and brass strip first dunked in A-brass Blacken-it. Goes black in seconds. acetate sprayed with Dull Cote, Gives a nice 'dirty' look. Tar paper sprayed with Floquil Grimy Black in a sweeping motion, making an artistic design. Other colours will be added later.
Now to the timber. The suggestion is that a nice faded red colour be added to the Barn. I didn't have the colour suggested by Brett and a look thru my various materials gave me Liberon Medium Oak water based dye. Paint and then wipe gave a very nice colour. Before that I had to 'distress' this wood and started with the metal brush in three pieces at a time. Not much imprint and desperately I turned to an industrial rust removal brush.. Drastic I know but it works. So for the night I dunked the various bags of timber in pie dishes and have now left it to do its stuff in weatherall. Dunked the lot and hadn't intended to put bag no. 5 which means I have to leave it to dry before I start to build.
Nite nite

Midge




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MikeC
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Posted - 11/13/2003 :  1:58:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit MikeC's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Dave Grassing

Before that I had to 'distress' this wood and started with the metal brush in three pieces at a time. Not much imprint and desperately I turned to an industrial rust removal brush.. Drastic I know but it works.
Midge





Hi, Midge, and welcome to RR-L.

Here's a suggestion you might find helpful when scribing wood to impart "grain." For many, many years, I have used an old Atlas Razorsaw. By applying light pressure and dragging the blade at an angle along the stripwood, you can get a variety of grain patterns in the wood. The grain shows up very nicely when painted or stained. (Atlas still sells the saws as "Super Saw" for about $3.00 U.S.)

Another tool I use that imparts a more subtle grain effect is a wire scratch pen. It's available from MicroMark. I posted these photos of it in another thread last winter, but I'll repost them here.






Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm a busy man. I have a railroad to run.


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paulbrockatsf
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Posted - 11/13/2003 :  2:07:26 PM  Show Profile
Midge,

Thamks for posting the update. It is good to have a lady posting. It is also nice to see someone actually buying the kit & starting it as soon as it arrives. Most of us buy it, look at it when it arrives & put it on a "to do" shelf.

I am glad to see a couple of people have starting the kit. I look forward to your postings.

Paul



Edited by - paulbrockatsf on 11/13/2003 2:09:26 PM

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Dave Grassing
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Posted - 11/14/2003 :  06:37:58 AM  Show Profile  Visit Dave Grassing's Homepage
Hello All

Day two – Quincy

Breakfast over I headed for my pie trays to view the timber staining. A trifle too pale I fancy, but just about acceptable. Mmm.. perhaps my Weatherall staining has been thru SW kits too often. I’ll have to get a new supply from that magic store, Caboose Hobbies in Denver. Spread timber out on newspapers to dry for the day.
The Medium Oak stain mentioned good enough to cover the shingles, windows and step. Chalk and alcohol will be used later to give some character, as it will on the tarpaper.
Back to the instruction book. The scene relies quite a bit on vehicles, (not supplied) including 6 trashed Jordans. Don’t know about that, I think, looking at my carefully hoarded pile of Jordan kits. The little diorama is very eye catching though so I might have to give in.
Turn next to the large piles of junk and barrels. The suggested mixture of Floquil Rust and Roof Brown is ideal for an initial covering as a dark rust. Later will come the laborious painting of individual items, followed by the chalking treatment. The result always turns out to be stunning.
If you don’t hear from me for a couple of days, don’t worry. I shall have my head down with the paint and brushes, then I’ll be back for the big build.

Midge



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Dave Grassing
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Posted - 11/14/2003 :  06:44:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit Dave Grassing's Homepage
Hello All
Mike's tip about using a razor saw to distress the timber is most welcomed it works a treat.
Midge



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Bbags
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Posted - 11/14/2003 :  08:27:20 AM  Show Profile
Hi Midge and Dave
You have convinced me to begin work on Quincys.
I have opened the box, inhaled the wonderful smell of the resin castings, found a place on my modeling bench and will start work.
I have to make a trip to my local hobby shop to get some paint and then I will be able to start the staining process.
I will also start with the castings as I have the required paints for that.
I look forward to your postings and hope to join you in the near future.



John Bagley
Modeling the Alaska Railroad in HO in Wildwood Georgia.

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paulbrockatsf
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Posted - 11/14/2003 :  4:55:21 PM  Show Profile

These construction threads are great! It gets people motivated to start on a project. I find if someone will start, others will join in.

Midge ,
Thanks for the updates.

John,
I have to resist starting….resist starting…… resist starting……..

Paul



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Bbags
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Posted - 11/14/2003 :  4:59:07 PM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by paulbrockatsf




John,
I have to resist starting….resist starting…… resist starting……..

Paul


Hi Paul
Don't forget that I have finished Foss' and did not buy Railroad Camp so this is the only large project that I am working on.



John Bagley
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Dave Grassing
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  11:22:20 AM  Show Profile  Visit Dave Grassing's Homepage
Hi All

Day three – Quincy

Here we go again in this fairly easy build. Floquil Earth is far too pale and I much prefer Humbrol Earth. Long hours detailing all the barrels and junk piles and a very effective look has been achieved.
Back to the book and a warning should be given. A mistake has been made on page 8, where Brett has shown a photo which does not relate to the build. It is in fact the picture of one of the buildings in the Rail Camp and could cause confusion in someone who has not been building Brett kits. Not surprising perhaps that some mistakes should creep in allowing for the enormous output he has. Ignore the photo and keep to the instructions and you should not be troubled.
The windows were then tackled and the usual bullet holes, broken and cracked panes shown. I did the oil tanks and the chimneys and detailed the weathered doors, so most of the preparation is dealt with and I shall now begin the buildings.
I shall not be laying it in as per Brett’s instructions as it’s going into a workings layout, which already contains the Twin Mills Saw Mill, the Machine Shop, Freight House, The Rail Camp and finally it will have Quincy. The Sierra West experience in fact!

Midge



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paulbrockatsf
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  12:21:28 PM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by Bbags

Hi Paul
Don't forget that I have finished Foss' and did not buy Railroad Camp so this is the only large project that I am working on.

John, I was only kidding. I am looking forward to building Quincy's but there is no way I can start until I get a couple of other projects done.
Paul



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NickO
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  12:30:54 PM  Show Profile
Hi Midge,
Are referring the picture of framing on page 7? Brett does actually say that it is from a different project,but is easy to miss if you just scan the text.

NickO



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Bbags
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  3:25:14 PM  Show Profile
Hi Midge
Wow!!!! You do work at a fast pace.
I have stained the wood but so far I only have a base coat on my detail parts.
I hope to start construction on the walls very soon.
I will do the detail painting as I go along.
If possible could you post a picture of the detailed barrels and junk piles.
Thanks for the warning and I did skip over the statement about the picture being from a different kit.
Thanks again for posting your progress.



John Bagley
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Dave Grassing
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  3:25:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit Dave Grassing's Homepage
Hi Nick
The point Midge was making that the photo's could be misleading and why include photo's of one of the buildings of another project.We assume Brett built Quincy so why not take shots on the real wall frame



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Dave Grassing
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Posted - 11/17/2003 :  3:59:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit Dave Grassing's Homepage
Hello John
I have just managed to prize away her junk piles to get an odd shot I haven't got a daylight bulb so I used flash so the colours are a bit off




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