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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 10/08/2017 :  4:18:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Greg,

Installing the nbw's is always a favorite step for me despite the repetitiveness. Nothing adds more structural character in my view. Your trestle bents look great.

Mike


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Artman
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Posted - 10/08/2017 :  4:28:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit Artman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yea . . . this brings back memories of my own 'Bent' experiences



Robert Wanka
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Edited by - Artman on 10/08/2017 4:29:08 PM

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Ensign
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Posted - 10/08/2017 :  4:46:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks! Mike & Robert, for your posts, and for your interest.

Greg



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hon3_rr
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Posted - 10/08/2017 :  6:12:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Greg, per request a description/example of my experiment with Sanded Gesso and coloring methodology. When evaluating the pictures, focus only on the 6x6 wood porch frame which was an attempt to simulate concrete and it's coloring. You will need to zoom in on the concrete frame to see the coloring effects.

The completed 6x6 wood (no graining of the wood) porch foundation was painted with Poly-S Concrete and allowed to dry. I then applied a light coat of Golden Sandable Hard Gesso. Once the gesso had dried, I lightly sanded the viewing surfaces using the fine side of a emery board. The frame was then painted another coat of Poly-S Concrete. Prior to this coat drying, I randomly stippled on a diluted mix of Ceramcoat Sandstone (2:1 water:paint). This was followed by a random stippling of diluted Ceramcoat Mudstone (2:1 water:paint). These coats of paint were allowed to dry for about 10 minutes. I then stippled on a bit of light A-I wash at random. This was a test of trying to obtain a textured concrete with some darker gray and yellow staining. I should have used styrene as the base instead of wood as I still have a joint seam showing. I expected the Gesso to fill the seam, but it did not.

Once the foundation was dry, I applied the deck using yellow wood glue.

Pictures showing the porch.







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Edited by - hon3_rr on 10/08/2017 6:24:56 PM

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Ensign
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Posted - 10/08/2017 :  6:58:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kris, I remember this/your nice little cabin well.
I just didn't remember this sandable Gesso technique that you mentioned.
The finish you achieved with it looks great!
I will have to give this a try in the future.
Thanks for sharing this again with us.

Greg



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David Clark
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Posted - 10/09/2017 :  1:20:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lovely work! Looks fantastic. When applying NBWs you flip the bents over to put them on the opposite but why not apply the NBWs on the backside where they would show after penetrating the bent? Doesn't the bolt go through the bent to be bolted on the far side? It isn't a lag bolt, is it? Still looks awesome.
Cheers,
Dave



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Ensign
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Posted - 10/09/2017 :  2:36:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by David Clark

Lovely work! Looks fantastic. When applying NBWs you flip the bents over to put them on the opposite but why not apply the NBWs on the backside where they would show after penetrating the bent? Doesn't the bolt go through the bent to be bolted on the far side? It isn't a lag bolt, is it? Still looks awesome.
Cheers,
Dave



Dave, thanks for your post & question.
You are right about these NBW"s having a opposite backside showing.
I would imagine that they used a carriage bolt to go through the wooden bent pieces.
The instructions suggest using a small amount of white glue, mixed well together with 2 or 3 drops of raw sienna paint.
And apply this as a small dot on the opposite side of each NBW's, use a toothpick or a wire to do this.
I however had some Tichy rivets that I used instead of Georges method.
Which have a conical head like a carriage bolt would have.
Though my way needed more holes to be drilled into both sides again of the trestle bents.








And then I painted the NBW's and the rivets all with Floquil rust paint.
Letting some of the paint streak down a little on the wood.





That little detail completes my trestle bents construction.

Greg



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masonamerican
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Posted - 10/14/2017 :  2:09:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The carriage bolt head on one side and NBW on the other is a great detail Greg!
I have up to now used NBW on both sides estimating rod threaded at both ends. Was that commonly used or am I completely wrong?

Håkan



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David Clark
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Posted - 10/14/2017 :  4:25:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Greg, Thanks for that explanation.
Cheers,
Dave



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desertdrover
Engineer



Posted - 10/14/2017 :  4:54:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great looking progress Greg! Those NBW really dresses up those bents. Fantastic weathering as well.


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quartergauger48
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Posted - 10/14/2017 :  8:22:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tedious work, NBW, but they sure look good Greg!
Nice weathering also, as mentioned by Louis'..




Ted

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Guff
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Posted - 10/15/2017 :  10:55:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
NICE!!!


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Pennman
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Posted - 10/15/2017 :  1:34:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Greg,
Just catching up with your build, rolling right along. Thanks for sharing your wonderful work with us.
Rich



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Ensign
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Posted - 10/15/2017 :  3:47:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by masonamerican

The carriage bolt head on one side and NBW on the other is a great detail Greg!
I have up to now used NBW on both sides estimating rod threaded at both ends. Was that commonly used or am I completely wrong?

Håkan



Thanks Håkan, for your interest and for your question.
I would imagine it could be done both ways.
Your method of having NBW's on both sides would need a threaded bolt at both ends.
The method using a carriage bolt gives you a nice rounded head on one end to hit with a hammer to drive it into the hole.
Your method with the threaded bolt on both ends, could damage the thread if hit with a hammer while driving it into the hole.
I suppose you could twist a nut onto the end of the threaded bolt, and hammer the nut instead of the threaded bolt so you would not damage the thread on it.
In the end my way would cost the railroad less in nuts & washers.
So my Scottish heritage, will push me towards cost savings.

Greg



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Ensign
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Posted - 10/15/2017 :  3:48:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by David Clark

Greg, Thanks for that explanation.
Cheers,
Dave



Dave, glad I explained it well enough for you to understand me.
That isn't always the case.

Greg



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