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Here's a picture I "borrowed" from their WEB page of the finished car; Here are some pictures of the laser cut pieces. notice that most pieces are labeled. Notice that the end pieces have for holes for each Grab Iron. Yes two for the wire and two for N/B casting to better represent the hardware. This kit thus raises the bar for quality kits. I really like the material he used for the car sides. Take a look at the metal castings; The decals are excellent too; The kits come with everything you need to model the car in any of it's revenue service days except for trucks and couplers. Jeff also has a new truck the B-30 for these cars (not on line yet) but this is how they look; It's only make-believe Country: USA | Posts: 5741 deemery Fireman Premium Member Posted - 04/15/2017 :  08:38:28 AM     Thanks for the "unboxing" photos, Bob. dave Modeling 1890s (because the voices in my head told me to) Country: USA | Posts: 8862 Michael Hohn Fireman Posted - 04/15/2017 :  1:28:59 PM       Bob, I'm looking forward to watching. I built one of the 34' cars and enjoyed it thoroughly. This is a pretty small car for my era but maybe I can find an eastern prototype, probably a New England railroad. Mike _________________________________________________ Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced. James Baldwin Country: USA | Posts: 7268 railman28 Fireman Posted - 04/15/2017 :  4:22:46 PM     quote: Originally posted by Michael Hohn Bob, I'm looking forward to watching. I built one of the 34' cars and enjoyed it thoroughly. This is a pretty small car for my era but maybe I can find an eastern prototype, probably a New England railroad. Mike Mike, cars were always getting "lost" in those days. It's only make-believe Country: USA | Posts: 5741 Michael Hohn Fireman Posted - 04/15/2017 :  4:45:49 PM       quote: Originally posted by railman28 Mike, cars were always getting "lost" in those days. Good point! _________________________________________________ Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced. James Baldwin Country: USA | Posts: 7268 railman28 Fireman Posted - 04/17/2017 :  6:18:31 PM     The instructions said about 22 of these cars made it to the 20th century. The instruction are very nicely done. Jeff used nice and large text which made for easy reading. There are six larger than life drawing to aid construction. Additionally a diagram from the Air brakes and three diagrams for decal placement are provided. As set out in these instructions the construction is pretty straight forward and if you have built any wood car kits in the past you should have no problem with these. . It's only make-believe Country: USA | Posts: 5741 deemery Fireman Premium Member Posted - 04/17/2017 :  7:42:03 PM     Westinghouse KC air brakes, or something more unusual? dave Modeling 1890s (because the voices in my head told me to) Country: USA | Posts: 8862 railman28 Fireman Posted - 04/17/2017 :  9:10:42 PM     Dave, they are "K"s. Tichy 3005 come with the kits. I prefer to build freight cars in batches. so here you see 4 floors and frames assembled and drying; From now on I'll show pictures of just one car as the build continues. When I lined up the frame on the floor I made sure I could see daylight through the king pin hole and the two trust rods holes on both end of the frame. Like illustrated here in a crummy picture; It's only make-believe Country: USA | Posts: 5741 quartergauger48 Fireman Premium Member Posted - 04/17/2017 :  10:19:12 PM     Looks like an interesting project Bob. I'll be following along'.. Ted Country: USA | Posts: 6186 railman28 Fireman Posted - 04/17/2017 :  11:33:32 PM     Thanks Ted, Nothing revolutionary is happening here, just the ABC's of car building. Here's the completed skeleton of the car; should do Job. The Model should last as long as the prototypes did. It's only make-believe Country: USA | Posts: 5741 Michael Hohn Fireman Posted - 04/18/2017 :  07:47:45 AM       Bob, I'm impressed how square and strong these models turn out. No saggy roof, for sure. Mike _________________________________________________ Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced. James Baldwin Country: USA | Posts: 7268 deemery Fireman Premium Member Posted - 04/18/2017 :  09:28:51 AM     That's a sturdy roof design, too often the roofs are more prototypical but a lot weaker/harder to get the roof to stay glued in place. dave Modeling 1890s (because the voices in my head told me to) Country: USA | Posts: 8862 drb New Hire Posted - 04/20/2017 :  5:13:38 PM     Hi Bob, Looking forward to following your progress on this interesting kit. What is the wheelbase of the new trucks? Do they have 33" diameter wheels or are they smaller like their T-19 trucks that have 28" wheels? Dave Country: USA | Posts: 2 railman28 Fireman Posted - 04/21/2017 :  12:40:03 AM     Dave The new T-30 trucks do 33" wheels and a 4.5' wheel base. It's only make-believe Country: USA | Posts: 5741 drb New Hire Posted - 04/21/2017 :  09:10:01 AM     Thank you, Bob! Country: USA | Posts: 2 railman28 Fireman Posted - 05/08/2017 :  11:57:40 PM     Yes! I got more done on the cars. I want to point out that you don't need to measure out where to place the truck bolsters or cross beam for the needle beams as their location is marked; These cars were built before turnbuckles were in general use so none are provided. Fishing line is provided for the truss rods and is installed in the usual way. I stained the wood with a dark A&I and painted the metal parts with flat black. Later, after I add couplers, I'll dust the bottoms with a mud color that will blend and soften the colors and contrast. But this is how they look now: Be sure to view my main thread to see what else I've been doing. 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