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George Fly Army Country: USA | Posts: 16590 Philip Fireman Posted - 04/19/2017 :  10:55:17 AM       Pardon me, How long has this dead rail forum been here? Where do I start to convert a loco? My subject of interest is On30. I like the idea of building outdoors! thanks! Philip Country: USA | Posts: 3438 BurleyJim Fireman Premium Member Posted - 04/19/2017 :  11:04:10 AM     quote: Originally posted by Philip Pardon me, How long has this dead rail forum been here? Where do I start to convert a loco? My subject of interest is On30. I like the idea of building outdoors! thanks! Philip Appears to date back to 2013. Take the red pill Country: USA | Posts: 6031 desertdrover Engineer Posted - 04/19/2017 :  1:29:49 PM     This was in 9-2016 as the last post I believe; http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=47900 Louis Pacific Northwest Logging in the East Coast Post count: 5000 posts added to below count. Country: USA | Posts: 16099 Ensign Fireman Posted - 04/19/2017 :  2:55:05 PM     I think this "Dead Rail Forum" is living up to it's title quite well. Greg Shinnie Country: Canada | Posts: 8935 Philip Fireman Posted - 04/19/2017 :  3:26:49 PM       I think your correct Country: USA | Posts: 3438 BurleyJim Fireman Premium Member Posted - 04/19/2017 :  3:44:56 PM     quote: Originally posted by Ensign I think this "Dead Rail Forum" is living up to it's title quite well. Greg Shinnie Take the red pill Country: USA | Posts: 6031 cajon Engine Wiper Posted - 04/19/2017 :  11:16:46 PM       Has anyone here been able to convert an HO ALCO S-2/-4 or CF7 to dead rail that is self-contained, i.e. everything inside the loco shell? Andy Jackson Santa Fe Springs CA LAJ/ATSF Modeler Country: USA | Posts: 287 TmOn30 Engine Wiper Posted - 04/20/2017 :  04:29:48 AM     quote: Ensign Posted - 04/19/2017 : 2:55:05 PM I think this "Dead Rail Forum" is living up to it's title quite well. Greg Shinnie While NOT wanting to take this off topic Greg your posting cannot go pass unrewarded Classic Dad humour (keep it up ) Normal broadcasting will now resume Cheers Tom. Edited by - TmOn30 on 04/20/2017 04:38:29 AM Country: Australia | Posts: 177 Bart Salmons Section Hand Posted - 05/02/2017 :  7:40:28 PM     quote: Originally posted by cajon Has anyone here been able to convert an HO ALCO S-2/-4 or CF7 to dead rail that is self-contained, i.e. everything inside the loco shell? It is doable with the right components..... Country: USA | Posts: 72 Brunton Crew Chief Posted - 05/03/2017 :  05:53:30 AM       As I wait for retirement and purchase of my retirement home (boy, does THAT sound creepy!), I've been messing around with ideas for what I want in my new model railroad. I have no idea what my available square footage or space configuration will be. I'm also open to abandoning my "CB&Q in Wyoming" setting for an entirely new theme. I'm not really considering moving into the diesel age, but I may shift back in time from the 1940's to the late 19th or early 20th century. One thing I HAVE settled on is that I'm going to give dead rail a very serious try. Being an engineer (not the "loco driver" type), the challenges of creating a solidly functional model railroad in which the battery-powered, radio-controlled equipment can operate reliably and without significant compromise (i.e., no permanently attached battery cars, no manhandling of equipment during a session to swap out / recharge batteries, etc.) are enticing. I'll be settling into my retirement in 14-18 months, and shortly thereafter will begin my foray into dead rail. We'll see how it goes! Edited by - Brunton on 05/03/2017 05:55:27 AM Country: USA | Posts: 552 Bill Gill Fireman Posted - 05/03/2017 :  07:44:48 AM     Brunton, I'll be one interested in your progress and challenges. I have a friend seriously considering dead rail for an HO scale Civil War era layout. Country: USA | Posts: 3199 tloc Fireman Premium Member Posted - 05/03/2017 :  08:34:14 AM     Mark, creepy no, but I am on my second retirement home since I retired in 9/14. Lots of time in retirement to do what you want when you want. Unless you're married then it's when she wants! It's that third retirement home that scares me. Anyway, battery power. I have a Blue Rail setup with battery. http://bluerailtrains.com The power is smooth and constant, but using the cell phone as the throttle is not for me. Cost was under $150 for the decoder, batteries and charger. Mine is diesel and while the board is in the powered SD40-2 the battery is in a dummy Sd40-2. I have run on my layout for up to 3 hours without degradation of power. Since you are into steam everything should fit into a decent size tender and therefore no need for a trailing battery car. Biggest issue other than the throttle for me is lack of diesel consisting. I know they are working on that. I am also using CVP's micro air. http://www.cvpusa.com/airwire_micro_decoder.php The boards are small, my batteries are again in a dummy engine. For for you everything will easily fit a steam tender. Like Blue Rail this system is independent from DCC or Dc and can be run along side them. You need in addition to a DCC decoder installed in a engine is of course the radio board, the batteries, a charger AND a CVP radio throttle. A small investment but I really like this system. Consisting diesels is just like using the regular CVP DCC systems, not hard at all. Thirdly, my main power is Rail Pro. Rail Pro can easily be switched to battery power but again nothing is small enough to fit in one diesel and for you it would need a large steam tender. There has been some discussion on the Rail Pro forum about battery power, mostly con. I have not tried it yet! I have extra batteries from the above systems just too lazy on this one. https://rpug.pdc.ca/index.php/topic,345.0/topicseen.html A helpful site: Is Pete's dead rail install--- http://deadrailinstalls.com/about Rail Pro is IMO, great, wonderful cannot say enough good about it EXCEPT the sound stinks and that is why I experiment elsewhere. I want good quality sound. In that regard CVP with loksound decoders and battery is the best so far for me. IMO, until batteries are small enough to fit into a single engine along with the decoders Battery power will stay a small niche market. Modelers fight change, look how long it took DCC to really catch on. Hope this is helpful, there are a few others on the market and a google search can help you there. The S-cab by Staton is a great but seemingly expensive. The British product escapes me at this time but if you don't need sound it maybe for you! These are what I have settled on for the time being! TomO Country: USA | Posts: 4206 Bill Uffelman Fireman Posted - 05/03/2017 :  12:13:39 PM     Deleting is the British system. Country: USA | Posts: 1105 Bill Uffelman Fireman Posted - 05/03/2017 :  12:15:20 PM     Deltang - dampened auto correct! 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