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deemery
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Posted - 11/01/2015 :  4:51:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's quite a wagon complex, including their own rolling mill. Are the slots for those roof support beams cut into the ends, or do you have to cut those yourself? I like your "nut pockets"!

dave


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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 11/01/2015 :  5:07:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dave,

The slots are already cut in the ends. One of the best ways I've seen to ensure a strong no-sag roof.

Mike



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railman28
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Posted - 11/01/2015 :  6:45:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's is a superior looking kit. you're doing a good job building it.


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deemery
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Posted - 11/01/2015 :  7:00:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just for fun, I looked at the area around the wagon works using Apple maps:

That roundhouse looks like it's where the NYC/Southern Central junction was.

Got any street pictures of that?

dave


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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 11/01/2015 :  7:53:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dave,

Yes, I've seen street photos of the roundhouse, I think on Flikr. That whole area was rebuilt in the 1890's and thereafter after the LVRR took complete control of the Southern Central. A large depot was built as well as the roundhouse and other buildings. Then the 1960's and 70's came with urban renewal, including that highway you see which occupies what was the interchange with the NYC.

That all postdates the period I model so I have not bookmarked the photos I found. Just to the northeast is a prison which in some aerial photos is blurred out.

Mike


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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 11/01/2015 :  8:25:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by railman28

That's is a superior looking kit. you're doing a good job building it.



Thank you Bob.!

Mike
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CavalryTrooper25
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Posted - 11/02/2015 :  10:38:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Michael Hohn

Now is the time to add weight. Some time ago I bought a box of nuts to use for this purpose. A couple of these weighs about right for most cars. I build little pockets to hold them in place.



I had installed the truss rods already so the weights would not be in the way.

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What size nuts are you using, and what do they weigh each?

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CavalryTrooper25
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Posted - 11/02/2015 :  10:41:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Apple maps is great to put things into context with the terrain. Granted, the things that existed during the era we model, vs what is there now is not always the same, but you can at least get some idea.

Horse





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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 11/04/2015 :  5:56:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I made some good progress on my Bitter Creek kit, which is a pure pleasure to build.







Of course, I had to diverge from the instructions:
- Material supplied for truss rods looked a little thicker than I have usually used, making it harder to thread it through the turnbuckles. I substituted line I had leftover from another kit.
- I really like the method used for the roofwalk supports with slots in the roofing sheet. This precludes the need to taper the supports to match the roof angle. However, I measured the supports on the plans of the Michigan Central car I was following and discovered that the kit-supplied supports held the running board too high, so I substituted short lengths of 2 by 4 stripwood.

One detail that impresses me is the kit includes the grap at each end of the roof; this is left off many kits, yet it adds detail is a prominent area of a boxcar.

Mike
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railman28
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Posted - 11/04/2015 :  7:01:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks good Mike. Did they provide a hole for the grab iron and the Niwot casting above it?


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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 11/04/2015 :  7:11:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bob,

Thank you. Yes, all the holes were provided, four per grab. All I had to do was deepen them with a no. 77 drill.

Mike


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railman28
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Posted - 11/04/2015 :  10:44:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is nice. No having to line up a jig. I always have trouble with adding those n/w over the grab iron usually the wood colaspes and I have a ugly hole too large for the needs.


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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 11/05/2015 :  07:20:08 AM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bob, yes, much easier. Also, the hardness of the wood is nice to work with.

I forgot to mention another modification I made. The kit calls for a simple fascia that conforms with the roof profile. I wanted the two-layer fascia so used some stripwood to build it up, although there's hardly enough overlap of the roof to accommodate the extra thickness.

Mike


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masonamerican
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Posted - 11/05/2015 :  3:56:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks great Mike. I'm happy to hear that you like the kit.

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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 11/11/2015 :  11:51:05 AM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I finished construction of my Bitter Creek kit, making a few changes following a photo of a Michigan Central Blue Line car and a plan for similar Michigan Central car in a late 1800's railroad journal:



In addition to ones I list above, modifications to the kit include: different door hardware--I see that I still need to trim the lower door guide supports--scratchbuilt deadblocks on the ends; a ratchet and pawl on the roof for the brakewheel; and 30" end grabs.

I plan to use the Clover House dry transfers for a Michigan Central Canada Southern Line boxcar, although I'm not sure when that style of lettering started to be used. I'm not finding many photos of MCRR cars on the internet.

Mike


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