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Paul Country: USA | Posts: 3581 Dutchman Administrator Premium Member Posted - 07/05/2003 :  9:02:50 PM   Well, the challenge looks interesting and a bit intimidating! Being new to the forum, I read all the posts to this thread over a half-hour period, not over the month and a half that it has been running. To me, the progress on Tyson's Climax and Drew's station just amazed me, as did the models as posted in their last pictures! Tyson, I agree with the others that you should submit this to RMC. It is just a fantastic job! Drew, what you did with the Model Power kits is inspiring! I'm thinking of jumping in on the challenge. I have never done anything quite like this, but it will probably motivate me to try new modeling techniques. Recently, on another forum, I joined a group working on detailing "shake the box" rolling stock kits. Again, I had never tried installing wire grabs, steps, etc., but I had a blast--and learned a lot along the way. Anyway, here is what I am thinking. I recently bought Pola's "New" Warehouse kit. When I got it home, I discovered that it was the same as IHC's old Freight Station kit, which I already had on my "unbuilt" shelf. I know I liked that kit! So, I thought that I would start with the old IHC kit pictured here: Download Attachment: IHCFreight.JPG 46.63 KB One goal is to make it look significantly different than the Pola kit that I will assemble according to the directions at some time in the future. A second goal is to make the kit look like a reasonable facsimile of a Creamery as would have been found in this area in the first half of the 1900's. Along the way, there should be plenty of opportunities to add interesting detail. I can't promise a result on par with those I have seen on the forum, and I certainly cannot proceed at the pace taken by Tyson and Drew. (I tend to move like a herd of turtles.) Having given all the disclaimers, off I go. Bruce Modeling the railroads of the Jersey Highlands in HO and the logging railroads of Pennsylvania in HOn3 Edited by - Dutchman on 08/09/2003 07:29:22 AM Country: USA | Posts: 23227 Tyson Rayles Moderator Premium Member Posted - 07/05/2003 :  10:00:14 PM   Jump right in here Dutchman, the waters fine! For the record this was the first time for me also, and while it was a little scary it's been fun for the most part. Good luck, looking forward to your progress! Mike Country: USA | Posts: 10160 ANo10 Fireman Posted - 07/06/2003 :  01:52:44 AM   Welcome Dutchman, Looking forward to your participation. Like you and Tyson, this is my first kitbash also. It has been and will be a lot of fun. I like your choice and don't know much about Pola kits, but looking forward to your Creamery. Post up pictures of your progress. Jim Country: USA | Posts: 2773 Drew Fireman Posted - 07/06/2003 :  09:17:09 AM   Come on in Dutchman! The more the merrier! Wow, what a great selection you've made! That kit is one of the "golden oldies"! If I'm not mistaken, AHM sold that one too, & I think the tooling on that goes all the way to the old Revell kits from the 50's! Can't wait to see what you come up with! Don't feel intimidated, Dutchman...I've felt that way too...especially when it comes to this "finescale" stuff...but these folks here have given me tons of praise & encouragement, & kept me motivated to keep ploddin' along. -Drew- "Life is all the stuff that happened while you were making other plans." Country: USA | Posts: 1173 MikeC Administrator Premium Member Posted - 07/06/2003 :  10:25:28 AM     Welcome to the group, Dutchman. It's good to see our little "Challenge" group growing. I'm looking forward to seeing photos of your progress on the "creamery." For my own part, well, you know the old saying about the best laid of plans.... I've gotten almost nothing done since Thursday, when our daughters showed up with fiancees, friends, and large dogs. I had planned to finish a lot of the detail painting on the brickwork and windows, but the constant movement of large dogs around me changed all of that pretty quickly... But I hope to get back to it this evening after everyone/thing has left for their respective homes in the city. Of course, we're going back to the city sometime tomorrow ourselves, so unless I take the freighthouse with me, I won't get any more done until next weekend. Oh well..... Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm a busy man. I have a railroad to run. Visit the Central Missouri & Southern Country: USA | Posts: 21584 Dutchman Administrator Premium Member Posted - 07/06/2003 :  7:39:50 PM   I stopped by work today and used the photocopier to make copies of the actual sides of the freight station (thank you Art Curren!) When I got home, I used rubber cement to glue the copies to some cardstock so I could make some mockups. I decided to add a sloped roof addition to represent the boiler house (I will need to add a smokestack of some type.) In this picture, the boiler house would be in line with the creamery along the tracks. Download Attachment: IHCMockUp2.JPG 22.43 KB I also tried it with the boilerhouse forming an "L" shape with the Creamery. Download Attachment: IHCMockUp4.JPG 24.62 KB Download Attachment: IHCMockUp3.JPG 27.88 KB I am leaning towards the "L" shape. Your input would be appreciated. Bruce Modeling the railroads of the Jersey Highlands in HO and the logging railroads of Pennsylvania in HOn3 Edited by - Dutchman on 08/09/2003 07:35:35 AM Country: USA | Posts: 23227 Tyson Rayles Moderator Premium Member Posted - 07/06/2003 :  8:03:18 PM   I like the "L". Mike Country: USA | Posts: 10160 Bbags Administrator Premium Member Posted - 07/06/2003 :  8:11:26 PM   Hi Dutchman and all When I first started modeling I bought a bunch of kits from eBay. They were all Tyco. One of the kits is the freight station which is the same one you show in the original picture. Since I never completed this kit I am watching your progress with interest. I like the L shape. Seems to create more possibilities and therefore more interest. John Bagley Modeling the Alaska Railroad in HO in Wildwood Georgia. Country: USA | Posts: 13049 MikeC Administrator Premium Member Posted - 07/06/2003 :  8:28:04 PM     Hi, Dutchman, I would go with the "L." The inside of the L creates a neat little area for trash and junk to accumulate and weeds to sprout up. It could become a very nice "mini-scene" area. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm a busy man. I have a railroad to run. Visit the Central Missouri & Southern Country: USA | Posts: 21584 DavidB New Hire Posted - 07/06/2003 :  8:30:26 PM   Hello Dutchman I agree with Bbags, the "L" shape creates more interest. It breaks up the long narrow box. Looking forwards to seeing it develop. DavidB Country: USA | Posts: 43 Dutchman Administrator Premium Member Posted - 07/07/2003 :  6:47:08 PM   OK, "L" shaped it is. Download Attachment: IHCMockUp3.JPG 27.89 KB A few decisions made, a few more to make. (1) The wrap-around loading dock will disappear and be replaced by two individual docks--one trackside to deliver milk cans to the RR, and one on the rear for the farmers to use when delivering the raw milk. (2) I will not put the dormer on the taller part of the structure. I will do this to try to further hide the origin of this structure. That also means that I cannot use the roofing that came in the kit for this section since it has an area to install the dormer. (3) One side of the roof on the lower section of the structure has a much larger overhang than the other side. I will make them even. This would be more prototypical for a creamery and also help disguise the origin of the finished model. Still to decide is the type of roofing to put on the tall part of the creamery and on the boiler house. I will either make the boiler house with brick walls or "glazed block" walls. Both were used on creameries in this area and will make it look like this addition was built at a different time than the wooden part of the structure. I also need to decide on the type of foundation to use. I am leaning toward stone of some type. Any input in these open areas will be welcome! I stopped at my LHS today an bought a selection of Grandt Line doors and windows for the project. I'm off to the bench for some "quality time" with my model. Bruce Modeling the railroads of the Jersey Highlands in HO and the logging railroads of Pennsylvania in HOn3 Edited by - Dutchman on 08/09/2003 07:37:49 AM Country: USA | Posts: 23227 Drew Fireman Posted - 07/07/2003 :  6:58:20 PM   Lookin' good Dutchman! One thing you might want to consider, if you haven't already, is to raise the entire structure 3 or 4 scale feet on a foundation of somwe sort...(a cut stone foundation looks great under a structure of this type IMHO) This would make everything the right height for loading/deliveries, &, along with the planned new roof, would add a whole new visual dimention to the kit! Just my nickle's worth... Keep those updates coming! -Drew- "Life is all the stuff that happened while you were making other plans." Country: USA | Posts: 1173 Bbags Administrator Premium Member Posted - 07/07/2003 :  7:28:18 PM   Hi Dutchman What kind of roof would the prototype have? I know George Sellios uses Campbells in all his FSM kits and one was a Creamery. Also Campbell makes metal roofing. Jim makes his shingles from real wood. Brian (inspecbri) uses Sierra Scale models real cedar shingles. http://www.sierrascalemodels.com/cedar.htm Brian has also posted instructions on how he weathered his shingles at the finescaleminature Yahoo Group. There is a picture of his use of these shingles on this forum. Look in the thread "Brett's web site has been updated" and find a post from Brian with a picture of the Railroad Camp. Edit You can see an example of Brian's shingles when you click on the link above. These are on a FSM kit Brian is working on. So you have lots of choices. Looks good so far. John Bagley Modeling the Alaska Railroad in HO in Wildwood Georgia. Edited by - Bbags on 07/07/2003 7:50:34 PM Country: USA | Posts: 13049 Dutchman Administrator Premium Member Posted - 07/07/2003 :  9:08:28 PM   quote: Originally posted by Bbags Hi Dutchman What kind of roof would the prototype have? I have pictures of creameries with cedar shakes, roll roofing, tin roofs, corrugated metal roofs, and even slate roofs. If I go the Campbell paper shingle route,what would you recommend for a subroof? Cardboard? Wood? The walls will be styrene with H&R over it. 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