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eTraxx
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Posted - 07/07/2012 :  9:15:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit eTraxx's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by deemery

Leave a couple boards unstained/unweathered as well, so they look like boards that were just replaced.

dave


Got time to consider that Dave. Decking is going slow .. it's the spiking that slowing stuff up ..



But worth it. The .020-in spike heads would represent about a 3/8-in spike .. about right for 4-in thick plank. Leaving planks varied and light color until after decking is complete and then will consider what/if to do other coloring/weathering .. if any. For sure will lightly stain around heads of spikes .. which should also stain the natural wood showing from the drill.



So. To keep from going bonkers (or more then I am) .. got the strip-wood in for the ties so will alternate putting down ties and decking.



Edited by - eTraxx on 07/07/2012 9:16:42 PM

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deemery
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Posted - 07/07/2012 :  9:34:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You need an HO scale air nailer :-)

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TRAINS1941
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Posted - 07/08/2012 :  11:18:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Geez Ed!!! You just putting them straight in or making little heads for them to

Great job very realistic looking.

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dallas_m
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Posted - 07/09/2012 :  05:54:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Individual nails? That's insane! (said the pot to the kettle)

Haven't said much recently, but continuing to follow along ... always enjoying all the varied elements going into this rather interesting little layout of yours ... there are so many interesting focal points and sub-scenes to the overall operation!



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Posted - 07/09/2012 :  05:59:01 AM  Show Profile  Visit andykins's Homepage  Reply with Quote
the colouring of the timbers is just great, the individual nails is just going to add a silly amount of detail that sets it apart from the rest :D

"Is it really "rivet counting" if it's regarding NBW castings?"
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eTraxx
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Posted - 07/09/2012 :  07:05:58 AM  Show Profile  Visit eTraxx's Homepage  Reply with Quote
@Dallas & @Andy

Sitting here this morning with a nice cup of coffee, reading through the comments since last night and (not) looking forward to another scorching day.

The using nails - I place the blame squarely on the shoulders of Dallas and Marc. :)

I mentioned this earlier, but found a great resource for building wooden piers, bridges and wharves. Army TM 5-551B published 19 July 1971 is titled 'Carpenter'. This is for taking a - "Do you want fries with that?" individual and teaching him/her how to do certain things such as a wharf. That means it shows in DETAIL .. how.

Chapter II. TIMBER PILE WHARVES
Section II. Wharf Superstructure
11-8



I then found Keystone Spikes Corp. They have a page with dimensions of their spikes. There it says ..

quote:
"With diamond or button* heads, square bodies, and wedge points black and/or galvanized are used for heavy duty timber construction such as docks, trestles, highway crossings, etc."


Dallas or Marc would probably figure a way to make a minature die to form the heads into either the diamond or button form .. :)

From the above link looking at the head dia. - the 5/16-in spikes have a 3/4-in head dia. while the next larger 3/8-in spike is between 7/8-in and 1-3/16 in dia. If you look back at the Army TM they used 5/16-in spikes to nail down 4-in x 8-in. planks. Since mine are 4-in x 12-in planks .. I felt comfortable with going to the 3/8-in spike .. and that .020-in would represent the head pretty well for that!
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I will now revert back to my morning coffee slurping mode ..

Edit: Check out the section in the TM on building a wooden vehicular bridge .. that looks really promising ..



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eTraxx
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Posted - 07/09/2012 :  07:51:50 AM  Show Profile  Visit eTraxx's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was sitting here slurping my morning coffee and thinking about the pics I've been sharing of the construction - in that they are all taken on a small work-table (wooden TV tray table) .. under the room lighting and not the layout so the color varies according. I realized that I hadn't Test Fitted the pier deck to the pilings .. so here we go.

Man. I am really happy with the way it's fitting. Again .. this is just sitting on the pilings when are just loosely sitting in holes. The plan is to get the four corners glued in and then pull the other pilings up into the slots cut in the under-side of the caps. That will require some fancy work I expect .. donno .. make up some 'piling lifting' device from a long wire and tape or something.



Oh. Yeah. Those tall pilings will get cut down at some point .. just enough to act as bollards (thanks to Troels Kirk)



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Posted - 07/09/2012 :  08:04:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That looks great ... it really looks "built in place"


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Posted - 07/09/2012 :  08:54:22 AM  Show Profile  Visit milocomarty's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Drool ! Awsome Ed !!

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okiecrip
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Posted - 07/10/2012 :  11:18:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
great work ED as always


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Posted - 07/10/2012 :  2:14:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
looking soooooo good.

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TRAINS1941
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Posted - 07/10/2012 :  8:26:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Awesome!!!!! That is realistic for sure.

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Posted - 07/11/2012 :  04:34:17 AM  Show Profile  Visit andykins's Homepage  Reply with Quote
what everone else said :P wonderful work Ed

"Is it really "rivet counting" if it's regarding NBW castings?"
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eTraxx
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Posted - 07/11/2012 :  9:13:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit eTraxx's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just finished notching the ties.Geeze. What a PAIN!! The Basswood doesn't mill/route worth a hoot and had tons of ragged edges to clean up. Whew!

Oh. First photo with my new iPhone. I'm impressed.




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Geezer
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Posted - 07/11/2012 :  10:36:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whats a few fuzzy ends when you are putting all this detail to work???
I dunno what to say that hasn't already been said.....looking forward
to the finish!
Nice work ED.


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