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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 03/25/2019 :  09:23:25 AM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bob,

I’m wondering why you represent each boiler band with two rings. Are you planning to add bands after the boiler is painted?

In any case, the relief appears a little high, especially the break between the course nearest the cab and the sloped portion.

Mike


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railman28
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Posted - 03/25/2019 :  4:36:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Hi Mike,
Here's a band on the prototype;




Does it make more sense now?

Yes, the break between the steam dome course and the tapered course does seem excessive but it doesn't seem as bad on the model. I painted it gray;




I've cut down the profile of the smokebox-boiler band and that it might make this joint look worst. I am concerned too about the horizontal line at the bottom of the tapered section. They both are proving difficult to fix without starting over.

Bob



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OK Hogger
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Posted - 03/25/2019 :  7:14:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking good to me, Bob.

Shore glad it's you doin' all that tedious CAD work and not me!

Andre



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railman28
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Posted - 03/25/2019 :  7:27:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by OK Hogger

Looking good to me, Bob.

Shore glad it's you doin' all that tedious CAD work and not me!

Andre



Thanks Andre,
Hay! it's no worst than adding Rafter tails or shingling!

Bob

P.S. I was able to get rid of the Horizontal line in the taper section.


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railman28
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Posted - 03/25/2019 :  8:13:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And Yea!!! I was able to fix that Fat Lip where the steam dome section meat the tapered section;




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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 03/25/2019 :  11:22:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bob,

Now I understand.

The new version looks a lot better.

Mike



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railman28
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Posted - 03/26/2019 :  8:03:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike,
Yes a little information often helps.
This will be the (I hope) the final check print but this version has all the detail and pilot hole on/in it;





At this point I need just to;
  • decided to print the Boiler in brass of un-FUD
  • Add a few details to the pilot deck
  • Draw a Cab
  • and put it all together


That's All

Bob



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railman28
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Posted - 03/29/2019 :  9:46:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A friend (Don Ball) pointed out a major error in the Firebox area so I had to do a revision;



I think it looks good

Bob


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railman28
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Posted - 04/01/2019 :  6:39:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
here's the fully detailed pilot deck;




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railman28
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Posted - 04/04/2019 :  8:27:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Howdy!

This is the result of my tests to see if the rows of rivets that run horizontally down the boiler that joint the sheets of Russia Iron together can be modeled. Which line (or lines) do you like?

To the naked eye, from a foot away, the diangeler line looks like a solid line.

On the back side I drew these a little different;


Which ones do you think look best? Are closest to scale?

Here's some screen saves of the drawing




What do you think?

Bob













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Edited by - railman28 on 04/04/2019 10:10:20 PM

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masonamerican
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Posted - 04/07/2019 :  02:46:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice progress Bob! I think the diagonal looks best. An idea. If it comes out like you said looking like a straight line from a distance would be to use
less rivets and separate them a fraction. Maybe not protypical but could look better to they eye on such a small model.

Håkan



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railman28
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Posted - 04/07/2019 :  3:40:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Håkan, I like you suggestion, Others have told me That they are so hard to see that I should leave them off. Another endorsed the idea of making them as close to scale as possible
9my leaning
)(the bottom line on the left of the same side on the drawing), so I'm thinking about it. As you can see I've gotten only your help here and I thank you for it.

Bob


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deemery
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Posted - 04/07/2019 :  6:02:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with Håkan, a bit of spacing will make these look better. Sometimes stuff "to scale" just disappears.

dave


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Michael Hohn
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Posted - 04/07/2019 :  8:00:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bob,

I think the row of rivets that form the diagonal on the taper look very good, both size and spacing. They look like the photo of the prototype you posted on page 76. The lines of rivets are obvious in the photo, especially since they occur where flat and curved sheets meet.

Are you at the lower limits of detail? Looks like you might be.

Are you going to need to polish the final product to get rid of print lines? If so you might want to leave the rivets off. Use Archer decal rivets.

Mike



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railman28
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Posted - 04/07/2019 :  10:24:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dave, Mike Thank you very much.






i need and appreciate the input.
The prototype's rivets are 1/4" heads spaced on 1" center spacing. Too small for printing, The smallest rivets I've drawn and printed are about 3/8" on 1" centers but don't show up on the print as they do on the prototype. the One that do show up, The diagonal line and the third line to the left, is 3/4" on 1" spacing. (They're also 3/4" tall).
I think I'm Going to draw a line or 3/4" at 1.5" spacing and see how they look.
For comparison the largest rivets you see on this test is the smallest that can be printed in Brass.

Any more thoughts?

Bob


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