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Basementdweller
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Posted - 05/21/2012 : 10:54:09 PM
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I have a Peco three way turnout that I removed from my layout some time ago. The reason I removed it is because it always caused derailmants but I am thinking I had the track curving too tight coming off one of the diverging routes. The turnout also seemed to cause a derailment and therefore a short.
Fast forward and I am trying to fit two industies into a tight space and using the three way would really fit the bill.
I am thinking that obviously I need to pay attention to how I lay the track coming off the diverging routes. I noticed that the frogs also need tweeked (filed) as the wheels seem to lift over the frog due to the clearance is slightly off.
Does anyone here use the Peco three way and if so what have you had to do the make them derailment free? Thanks.
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Edited by - Basementdweller on 05/21/2012 10:59:47 PM
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Posted - 05/21/2012 : 11:42:09 PM
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I have four of them in Code 75 electrofrog. I did not have any issue regarding derailments. I used them in yard throats so the track does not curve off them. No change of angle. I recommend if you are thinking about a curve that you use an easement so that the trains have a chance to straighten before entering the curve in the turnout. The frogs are live in my three way switches so I use frog juicers to reverse the polarity automatically if required.. You may have issues if there is pressure on the turnout that may cazuse the rails to go out of gauge.
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desertdrover
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Posted - 05/22/2012 : 09:46:34 AM
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I too use the Peco three way turnouts, and love them, had no derailment issues. IMO they are well made and perfect operating turnouts.
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andykins
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Posted - 05/22/2012 : 10:21:33 AM
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check the back to back of your wheels! the main problem with stuff derailing over points is the back to the back of the wheels being slighty out of gauge
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Jim from Valencia CA
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Posted - 05/22/2012 : 5:39:33 PM
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I have one on my layout which I installed about eight years ago. I didn't do anything special when I installed it. I have not experienced any problems with it.
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Posted - 05/23/2012 : 07:53:34 AM
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I've got one, insulfrog, and I've not had any derailment issues, either.
As has been mentioned, check the wheel gauges, 1st. If you still have problems, I would glue a very thin strip of styrene to the guardrail(s) between the metal rail and the face of the guardrail. I've had to do that to a few of my Peco, curved turnouts.
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Basementdweller
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Posted - 05/23/2012 : 10:45:41 PM
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OK thanks for all the reassurance. I will check the wheel gauges again. I believe my biggest problems in the past was too tight of a curve coming off the diverging routes.
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Posted - 05/27/2012 : 11:22:17 AM
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Martin, I was wrong when I told you I had no problems with my Peco, 3-way turnout. I was looking at my trackage last night while switching the yard and realized that I have added styrene strips to my small Peco Wye's and to the 3-way.
Here are a couple pics to illustrate what I've done. Sorry about my mis-speaking about the issue.
The 3-way

The small wye

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Basementdweller
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Posted - 05/27/2012 : 8:19:22 PM
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Mike, thanks for posting the pics, that gives me a good idea of what I too may need to do.
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desertdrover
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Posted - 05/28/2012 : 10:01:06 AM
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Here is a link for Peco turnouts and crossings that may also be helpful to your problem. http://www.wiringfordcc.com/switches_peco.htm

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upcsx
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Posted - 05/28/2012 : 4:14:16 PM
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Have two of them and they are not on the layout yet and they cost allmost 50 dollars each so i guess i will be doing the same with them.
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Posted - 05/28/2012 : 6:49:20 PM
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quote: Originally posted by upcsx
Have two of them and they are not on the layout yet and they cost allmost 50 dollars each so i guess i will be doing the same with them.
Russell, When you look at Louis' pic, you can see just how "generous" the flangeway is on those Peco's. I haven't looked at their Code 83 line, so I can't speak to how they look/work. I have also done the same thing on many of my Peco curved turnouts. Even having to make that mod on some of them, I still prefer them over other brands. Just my experience.
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upcsx
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Posted - 05/28/2012 : 7:53:50 PM
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Yes i like Peco,the only turnouts i use but i have two Atlas #8 turnouts because Peco does not have any,now i do use Code 100.
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