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belg
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 Posted - 04/14/2012 : 2:58:52 PM
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Guys I have come to the conclusion that my BTS sawmill is just too large to fit well into the space I have available. I would love to find something from around the turn of the century to no later than 1930. I'm looking for an open type main structure as to be able to model the machinery within. Any help/thoughts would be much appreciated. Pat
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mabloodhound
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 3:25:51 PM
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Here's the link I mentioned, http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/collections/habs_haer/
Browse by "subject"
There were 29 listed under sawmills and this one was in NJ.
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=hhphoto&fileName=nj/nj0700/nj0793/photos/browse.db&action=browse&recNum=0&title2=McMurtry%27s%20Saw%20Mill,%20Hardscrabble%20Road,%20Bernards%20Twp,%20Somerset,%20NJ&displayType=1&itemLink=D?hh:12:./temp/~ammem_HYgQ::
This one might interest you also http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=hhsheet&fileName=nh/nh0100/nh0154/sheet/browse.db&action=browse&recNum=0&title2=James%20Saw%20Mill,%20Narrows%20Brook,%20Northwood%20Narrows,%20Rockingham,%20NH&displayType=1&maxCols=2&itemLink=D?hh:11:./temp/~ammem_HYgQ::
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TRAINS1941
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 7:13:38 PM
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Pat
How much space do you have???? I assume HO???
Jerry
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belg
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 7:28:52 PM
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Jerry, thats a very good point it needs to fit into about 3'square in HO scale but that has to include all the out buildings.
Camp cars.. lumber storage.....
Dave, that will be a great start for my research. Will definitely take a look at the Jersey one. Thanks again for the help. Pat
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desertdrover
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 7:38:51 PM
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Would something like this be of interest?
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Bill Uffelman
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Posted - 04/14/2012 : 9:41:59 PM
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NG Down Under has plans that should do the trick for you. MR had a plan and build 40 years or so ago that fits your size requirement too.
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belg
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Posted - 04/16/2012 : 12:27:20 PM
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Mario, that would be great this is the type of mill I'm looking for. Look forward to some measurements.
Louis, thANKS FOR THE PICS i THINK THE TYPE IS RIGHT BUT WOULD LIKE A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX MILL. sORRY FOR THE CAPS.
Bill since this is one of the magazines I don't get I would appreciate any actual pics/plans. If you want to send
them direct so we don't violate any copyright rules. That would be much appreciated.
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hon3_rr
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Posted - 04/16/2012 : 5:44:25 PM
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Starting in the December 1977 RMC and going to August 1980 MRC there were a series of articles (I think 6 articles) where a complete sawmill (actually Planing mill) complex was shown which really has the character/flavor of the BTS product. For a long time I actually thought that the BTS product was based on these articles as the flavor of the structures are so close. The articles included the Planing mill/trestlework, cloths-pin factory, mill supt's house, company president's house, boarding house, blacksmith shop, company houses and company store. There is a plan which also includes all of the structures in multi-level ground contour setting, a creek with two bridges and a timber retaining wall. I'm pretty sure that all of this would fit in your space requirements. In addition, all of the structure plans are in HO scale and each article has a materials list for the structure. Most of the articles have photos of the prototype structure used, which was the Emporium Lumber Company at Keating Summit, PA.for the planing mill. The author, Jerry Strangarity, selectively compressed major dimensions of the structures, but the shapes were retained. The author states that his model was based on a picture of the planing mill found on page 621 of Tom t. Taber's book Wining Saws and Squealing Flanges. There are multiple color photos of the author's completed diorama, with a focus on the articles structure(s). The articles were part of the 'Potterfield' complex, so a lot of the articles are titles something like "Potterfield's company houses".
The articles I kept were:
1) Logging Company Store - Dec 1977 RMC Pg 54
2) The boarding house - May 1978 RMC pg 48
3) Potterfield's company houses - Dec 1978 RMC pg 79
4) The Potterfields Plaing Mill - Sep 1979 RMC pg 62
5) The president's house - Aug 1980 RMC pg 75
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railman28
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Posted - 04/19/2012 : 6:23:46 PM
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Pat,
If I was starting my sawmill today. I would get a Sierra West's Twin mill and kitbash it (just build one of the mills) into a one carriage mill. That should comfortably fill 3 sq. ft.. I would use the rest of the parts here and there around the layout. I would also use a BTS band saw for the head saw too. You might be able to sell your BTS mill to pay for it too. In fact, I just checked his web page and for $165. he'll sell you the HO machinery along with templates to use to set them up. That sounds like a real good deal to me.
And no I'm not affiliated with Sierra West or even a customer of his.
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belg
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Posted - 04/24/2012 : 10:55:47 AM
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Guys, sorry I had not seen your post earlier will check them out more thoroughly this evening.
I went to the magazine index and found a few articles that sound interesting in the Gazette but mine are packed up.
Could someone who has them neatly on a shelf perhaps check out the following listings and see if they sound like what
I'm trying to do? Sept 2004 pg 44 small steam sawmill , Jan 2001 pg 41 Ward sawmill , and Jan 85 pg 63 Brazeau lake
Lumber sawmill. Thanks for any further help, Pat
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desertdrover
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Posted - 04/24/2012 : 11:35:03 AM
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Originally posted by belg
Guys, sorry I had not seen your post earlier will check them out more thoroughly this evening.
I went to the magazine index and found a few articles that sound interesting in the Gazette but mine are packed up.
Could someone who has them neatly on a shelf perhaps check out the following listings and see if they sound like what
I'm trying to do? Sept 2004 pg 44 small steam sawmill , Jan 2001 pg 41 Ward sawmill , and Jan 85 pg 63 Brazeau lake
Lumber sawmill. Thanks for any further help, Pat
Hi Pat, I don't know if by Gazette you mean the Narrow Gauge & Short Line Gazette?
However, in the Sept/Oct 2006 NG&SL, I found this Morse Timber Company HO diorama.
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belg
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Posted - 04/24/2012 : 3:34:15 PM
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Louis, I do mean the NGSL Gazette thanks for the pic of this one but I believe this is just a little too
small for what I was thinking.
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Pennman
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Posted - 05/04/2012 : 08:18:06 AM
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Originally posted by railman28
Pat,
If I was starting my sawmill today. I would get a Sierra West's Twin mill and kitbash it (just build one of the mills) into a one carriage mill. That should comfortably fill 3 sq. ft.. I would use the rest of the parts here and there around the layout. I would also use a BTS band saw for the head saw too. You might be able to sell your BTS mill to pay for it too. In fact, I just checked his web page and for $165. he'll sell you the HO machinery along with templates to use to set them up. That sounds like a real good deal to me.
And no I'm not affiliated with Sierra West or even a customer of his.
Pat, I'm not trying to promote a seller's item here, but I purchased the Sierra West HO machinery kit for $165, have yet to put it together, but the machinery is the finest I've seen yet. They are the same machinery found in the Twin Mills Signature kit, so I have stripwood, it's like getting Twin Mills kit for $165, sounds good to me. If you cannot use all of the machine, or they are copies of what you already have, I'm sure there are many friends of yours on this forum, that would appreciate a surprize Christmas stocking gift!! 
Rich
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Frederic Testard and others have posted a HEAP of information.
, so I'll look for it then.