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AVRR-PA
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 Posted - 04/02/2012 : 7:21:42 PM
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Originally posted by kebmo
i sure wish walt did something for us n scalers. his kits look like so much fun to build they tempt me to jump scales, but i have so much 'invested' in n scale that it just wouldn't be prudent.(apologies to dana carvey)
Feel free to harass Walt.  If you get enough people to whine at him ("C'mon, Walter, pleeeeeze make it in n-scale!") he'll probably cave. 
I'm working on the metal parts. Pictures later.
Don
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George D
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 7:37:52 PM
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Nice recovery on the tank, Don. It looks like you're putting plenty of wear and tear on that brick. I hope it makes it through the project.
George
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Rusty Stumps
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Posted - 04/02/2012 : 8:23:34 PM
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Well, Walt is looking at putting an 'on-going survey' on the RSSM website so he can get feedback on what people are doing and what they are looking for. Biggest problem he seems to have is TIME, just not enough of it and the older he gets the less he seems to have!  
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AVRR-PA
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 08:52:02 AM
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Originally posted by George D
Nice recovery on the tank, Don. It looks like you're putting plenty of wear and tear on that brick. I hope it makes it through the project.
George
I own six of them.
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AVRR-PA
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 09:09:37 AM
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Hi, everyone --
I divided my modeling time between working on the plumbing and experimenting with Scenic Express plaster cloth.
Walt must have been in a particularly sadistic mood when he designed the drain value. It's made up of five (six?) itty-bitty pieces and you have to drill 1/16" holes in hard-to-hold parts. I have all the parts cleaned up but haven't actually attempted the hole-drilling part.
Metal parts piping etc cleaned up
As relief from all that Optivisor time, I tried the plaster scenery material. It is, indeed, easy and pleasant to use. It's a little bit messy - mostly dust - but not bad enough that I couldn't work on a small diorama on my main bench. I bought the material from Jim Elster at Scenic Express and it certainly does what it's supposed to do.
Scenery base with plaster wrap
After the plaster wrap had dried (maybe 30 minutes?) I did a test fit on the tank base. I found I had to do a little trimming - easily done with a hobby knife and tweezers. Here's the test fit:
Base and tank test fit after plaster cloth done
Some years ago, I won this little Learning Kit at an NMRA event. (Probably donated by the aforementioned Jim Elster of Scenic Express - their HQ is nearby.)
Woodland Scenics Learning Kit Scenery Details
I decided this would be a good time to open it up and use it. It claims to be enough for 2' x 2' so it's way more than I need for this little diorama. (The rest can be used elsewhere on the module.)
Next step on the scenery base will be to paint it with earth-colored latex paint and sprinkle on a base layer of real dirt - but that better wait until have I have the platform subassembly done and ready to install since I think I will probably have to either build up or carve down t accomodate the front and rear support - if I want the walkway to be level.
Back to building a very small globe valve.
Don
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desertdrover
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 09:39:52 AM
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Looking good Don. I know you have a good supply of plaster cloth left. But, a tip, if you ever need more Micheals stores sell Rigid Wrap, (the same stuff) much cheaper than the hobby stores.
Also, by the time you get done with that piping, you are going to be a first class plummer. What do you think?
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Rusty Stumps
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 10:54:26 AM
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Don, I have a carton of that plaster cloth sitting here I'd love to sell someone!
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AVRR-PA
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 1:19:08 PM
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Also, by the time you get done with that piping, you are going to be a first class plumber. What do you think?
Hi, Louis -- I didn't like 1:1 plumbing and I don't like it any better in 1:87th. At least the model stuff doesn't leak.
Don
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AVRR-PA
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 1:22:19 PM
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Don, I have a carton of that plaster cloth sitting here I'd love to sell someone!
Wish I could help but I think that roll I bought is about three lifetimes worth for me. Maybe I'll build a huge mountain in the middle of the module. 
Don
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AVRR-PA
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 8:59:31 PM
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All my modeling time today went into preparing the metal parts for the model.
Walt's instructions call for drilling a 1/16" hole about 1/16" deep into the side of the valve body and recessing a very short length of styrene rod in the hole. I figured I'd NEVER get that right so I chose to drill completely through and push a longer styrene rod thru. The extra hole is on the bottom, facing the deck, and won't be seen. And in the short term, the extra rod makes a convenient handle for holding it while CA'ing the parts together and painting it.
Anyhow - here's the result, unpainted. There are seven pieces. Six are white metal, one is styrene. It's a neat little model in its own right:
Globe valve not painted 7 parts
And here it is after a coat of Gun Metal - not sure if that color is still made but I like it as a base color for metal parts of many sorts:
Globe valve painted Gun Metal
And here it is in my hand, for scale:
Globe valve in gloved hand
Here's all the piping, before painting:
Piping and valve Not painted
And after:
Piping and value painted
And here's the spout and pulleys:
Spout and pulleys Painted gunmetal
I'll let the solvent-based Gun Metal cure overnight and then rust everything up tomorrow. Not sure yet how I'll proceed but it will definitely involve Bragdon powders - maybe some Polyscale Rust with some Bragdon Dark Rust mixed in to add texture and tone it down some?
Have to tackle all those tank bands soon. But the walkway would be more fun.
Don
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desertdrover
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Posted - 04/03/2012 : 9:30:25 PM
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Walt sure does have a first class piping setup going there. And, you did do a great job putting it all together. Time consuming I can see but well worth it.
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elwoodblues
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Posted - 04/04/2012 : 08:29:39 AM
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Wow, that is some pretty impressive plumbing Don, have to love Walt's attention to detail.
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AVRR-PA
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Posted - 04/04/2012 : 09:09:08 AM
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Thanks for the comments, guys.
That globe valve was a challenge but pretty satisfying when completed. I think all those detailed parts will look really good on the model.
I should check Walt's website and find out if he offers the globe valve separately - I can think of a couple of other projects where one or more of them would look really neat. And having survived building one of them, I now have some ideas about how to build the next one better.
More work on the project today - unusual for me to be modeling at home on a Wednesday, but Vagel has another gig today so our usual session isn't happening.
Time to brew up some rust.
Don
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Frederic Testard
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Posted - 04/05/2012 : 6:40:39 PM
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This valve is a serious bit of modelling, for sure, Don, and you've achieved it quite well. In case Walt doesn't offer them separately, you might want to check Cal-Scale or Precision Scale catalogs as they sell numerous such fittings in HO. From time to time, I reassort my supply by buying a bunch of them directly from Walthers.
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Rusty Stumps
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Posted - 04/05/2012 : 10:07:42 PM
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Don, never say never, as the saying goes. I have thought of offering all the detail parts of the Backwoods Water Tower as a seperate item once all the kits are sold. The first batch, 25 kits, came from Western Scale Models but he didn't want to provide the large quantity I needed so I had to make my own masters and molds. Now that he's out of the business in HO any way, I may just go ahead and add those as detail groupings. Just what I need, more products. 
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