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Drawings, or better yet, photographs, would help, but I cannot recall ever seeing this detail mentioned. If you don't want to hit Olympic and Brittanic right away, there's always Lusitania or Mauretania.... Pete in Michigan Thanks Pete! Now in answering your question about the stern steering, I consulted the "Haynes" owner's Workshop Manual. Something every owner of a Titanic should have. On page 69 of this manual it shows this photograph of the area we are talking about. And the caption above it reads."Note the docking bridge in the background, with it's telegraphs and wheel for direct connection to the steering gear and after-conning operations." So there you have it. Those other ships you mentioned that I could also build, leave me with a sinking feeling as well. Greg Shinnie Edited by - Ensign on 03/06/2012 5:44:37 PM Country: Canada | Posts: 3704 Orionvp17 Fireman Premium Member Posted - 03/06/2012 :  6:05:29 PM   Greg, That book looks like a great resource! The picture does indeed answer the question! Thanks for posting it! And if you don't want more liners, there are always Yamato, Kaga, Hiryu, Akagi, Soryu, Hood, Bismarck, Indianapolis, Arizona.... The possibilities abound! Pete in Michigan Country: USA | Posts: 2805 George D Moderator Premium Member Posted - 03/06/2012 :  7:47:02 PM   Great progress, guys. Greg, that rigging is impressive. George Country: USA | Posts: 9905 George D Moderator Premium Member Posted - 03/06/2012 :  7:51:07 PM   I've finished the brake details on the bottom of my La Belle cars. Here's an update. George Country: USA | Posts: 9905 Mike Hamer Engineer Posted - 03/06/2012 :  8:24:51 PM     Greg and George, you provide great pics of some very fine detailing from two very fine modellers! All the best, Mike Hamer Ottawa, Ontario, Canada http://craftsmanstructures.blogspot.com http://bostonandmaine.blogspot.com http://fridaynightgroup.blogspot.com Country: | Posts: 9343 Schoolmaster Fireman Posted - 03/06/2012 :  8:26:28 PM   Greg. Don't you think that the aft wheel connected to one of the steering engines? I can't imagine that any manual wheel/cable system could move a rudder that big, evem with a tiller head without some power-assist. Outstanding model, but I've already said that several times and you keep making it better. Country: USA | Posts: 1581 Ensign Fireman Posted - 03/06/2012 :  8:51:13 PM   Thanks again guys for the nice comments! George,the bottom of your car looks as fantastic as the top does. The work is clean and precise my friend. Mr.Palmer,the only insights I have to any of the working mechanical devices aboard this ship, are through books I have on the Titanic. The Haynes manual I mention earlier has this to say. The Titanic's massive bulk was steered by a solid cast steel "plate" rudder made up of six sections bolted together,with overall height of 78ft. 8in. and length of 15ft. 3in. It weighed 101 & a quarter tons,which meant that no steering arrangement reliant on manual power alone, regardless of how much leverage was in the system, would have been strong enough to move it. To solve this problem, an enormous steering gear and two engines were installed in the poop at the after end of the shelter deck. The steering gear itself was driven by one of the two steering engines. I hope that makes the waters a little less murky Mr.Palmer. Greg Shinnie Edited by - Ensign on 03/06/2012 9:15:13 PM Country: Canada | Posts: 3704 robert goslin Crew Chief Premium Member Posted - 03/06/2012 :  8:58:35 PM   I've got the blue colour done. Note to garish but enough just to brighten it up a bit. Regards Rob Goslin Despite the cost of living, it's still popular. Country: Australia | Posts: 513 Mike Hamer Engineer Posted - 03/06/2012 :  9:06:53 PM     I'm still playing with the positioning of trees and other elements. Snapping quick shots with the digital camera really helps out here to see if I have the look I want. Some closer "tight" shots show me were there could be possible viewing lanes for each side of the diorama. It's my goal to have each of the four sides of the diorama offer interest to the viewer as well as the four "corner" views. This corner view lets me see the track element to the left and the addition to the buiding looking to the right. Working on styrofoam is a plus as I can remove and change the position of trees with ease. All the best, Mike Hamer Ottawa, Ontario, Canada http://craftsmanstructures.blogspot.com http://bostonandmaine.blogspot.com http://fridaynightgroup.blogspot.com Edited by - Mike Hamer on 03/06/2012 9:09:43 PM Country: | Posts: 9343 Mike Hamer Engineer Posted - 03/06/2012 :  9:21:30 PM     Here is a preliminary look at the other side of the diorama where the radio repair and the canoe outfitters shop is located. A closer look out back the canoe shop. No, I won't leave that green canoe leaning precariously like that. I'll have to scratchbuild some supports or racks for the canoes. A closer view. Note the Bar Mills shack that came in the Shack Pack, one of three. The fencing is not completed yet...I've only begun the initial painting and haven't cut the sections from the sprues. I've just leaned them up against the shack temporarily to give me a "look" of how the scene may eventually turn out. Another look of this area from the other corner angle with the fencing not there. All the best, Mike Hamer Ottawa, Ontario, Canada http://craftsmanstructures.blogspot.com http://bostonandmaine.blogspot.com http://fridaynightgroup.blogspot.com Edited by - Mike Hamer on 03/06/2012 10:05:14 PM Country: | Posts: 9343 Schoolmaster Fireman Posted - 03/06/2012 :  9:30:37 PM   Sorry for the misunderstanding Greg. I thought you were replying to Pete that the docking wheel was directly connected to the rudder, not to the steering engine. Country: USA | Posts: 1581 Mike Hamer Engineer Posted - 03/06/2012 :  10:04:40 PM     Next step was to remove everything from the diorama base and begin working on the tracks. I've chosen to elevate the main tracks of the branchline with the siding into Walt's Warehouse and Charlie's Chocolates lower down. Masking tape along the edge of the base will ensure no ballast runs off the dioprama. Those old film cannisters sure come in handy in applying ballast! In this case, I will use the same light ballast found along the Boston and Maine. A make-up brush helps spread the loose material. Weights placed along the track ensures that the glue below the cork and the ties sets solidly. In the meantime, I was able to apply the Woodland Scenics ground foam to areas where I want grass, dirt or earth. The green grassy areas certainly add colour, but I will mute them with other material as I work on the scenery. All the best, Mike Hamer Ottawa, Ontario, Canada http://craftsmanstructures.blogspot.com http://bostonandmaine.blogspot.com http://fridaynightgroup.blogspot.com Country: | Posts: 9343 masonamerican Crew Chief Posted - 03/07/2012 :  07:22:31 AM   quote: I've finished the brake details on the bottom of my La Belle cars. Here's an update. Very nice work on the brake rigging! I hope its ok if I keep that photo for future reference. Håkan Country: Sweden | Posts: 529 mountaingoatgreg Engine Wiper Posted - 03/07/2012 :  08:13:57 AM     I am still trying to finish by the deadline... My building now has some lights I posted more photos in the thread dedicated to the build... http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=35604 Be Wise Beware Be Safe "Mountain Goat" Greg http://oregontrunk.blogspot.com/ Country: USA | Posts: 130 Neil M Fireman Premium Member Posted - 03/07/2012 :  08:19:38 AM   Great work everyone, I have been lurking on this thread quite a bit. I have made a start to a Tamiya 1:48 'Tilly', a 10 horse power Austin utility vehicle used in the Second World War. It is quite a quick kit to put together so should be finished by the end of the challenge This is Tamiya's publicity shot I have assembled the kit into 7 sub-assemblies that are in primer and ready for painting. The injection moulded styrene kit went together extremely well (although I have heard complaints about the fit of the glazing). I have also de-militarised the driver but he still needs a peak to his hat. I have also filed off the blackout shroud over the left headlamp but I am leaving the spare tire and shovel on the roof because I like them too much. Tasks for tomorrow are shadow lining and then first coat painting of the model and hopelfully sticking the main assemblies together for weathering. 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