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andykins
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Posted - 06/28/2011 : 12:34:09 PM
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thanks bill.
i did wonder if that would be the case, i may end up with 2 x 8 since the scale 2inch lumber is far cheaper (and dosnt look that much thinker then the 1inch)
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Neil F
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Posted - 06/28/2011 : 4:08:41 PM
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Hi Andy,
Have a look at the grass teck as sold by John Lloyd (http://www.green-scene.co.uk/)members of your club could buy one for you all to use, he also sells a cheeper unit like a fly swat. you then have to buy the static grass and use the correct glue. I have one and use it on our On30 layout Purgatory Peak and my own O gauge Newfield I have enjoyed looking at your layout and its given me some good ideas for another On30 layout, and you should get some invites for your layout. Get the details sheet ready before your first show. Then the hard job of deciding which to do first.
keep up the good work
Neil
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andykins
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Posted - 06/29/2011 : 04:59:22 AM
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Hi neil.
ive seen that before, however i was put off at the start of the year when somethign with the maker (and i have to stress not green scenes) cocked up, and judging by ebay quite alot of people didnt get theirs. and after finding the owners reply on another forum i have to say i wasnt that impressed, not to add that he stated a handful of british mags, with the month in witch he said it was reveiwed, and i had all of those and the only one that said anything was model rail, and then it didnt even review it, just said its there and can be brought from greenscenes. plus ive used grassmasters before and like how they work, plus one club member already has one, and it goes around the club more then a village bike, however i wouldnt be able to gain his for long enough to do my layout, and atleast by having another one in the club should take the effort of his.
while im sure it works fine, the whole problem at the start of the year and more so his excuse kinda put me off.
thanks for your comments, im glad you've enjoyed watching my build, its 1st booking is our own show next year (july) so about a year to go. theres already a small write up on out website so hopeful it'll start doing the "rounds" soon after
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Posted - 06/29/2011 : 06:17:39 AM
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Can't wait to see you grassin'up these modules, would save up for a grassmaster, lousy build but works like ****, I like the fine nozzle that comes with the later ones a lot. Silflor is the same as MiniNatur isn't it. Gonna try the Polak fibers later on this week, but they look very nice to me in the box, colors are more natural...keep up the good job Andy!!
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andykins
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Posted - 07/04/2011 : 07:54:16 AM
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me too martin, from everything i read the grassmaster is the only one that can handle long fibers well.
not a photographic update, but all the backboards have been painted and sanded back (no more fuzz, woohoo) and holes and slots cut for plugs, point control and the latches etc, ive cut and glued 4 10inch lenghts of 2x1 to the back to aid in suport, i was going to use some smaller stock (1"x1") across the top, but all they had at the timber yard was more wobbly then penncentrals track, so was left, i think i may just cut some pply of MDF into strips and glue across the top. should work out lighter too.
once the long backboard is set i'll glue the last supports on the shorter one, i do however need to trim it down in lenght before. i have a busy-pain-in-my-side week, jobcentre tomorrow, and my passport interveiw friday, however sat we have another working weekend at the hall where we meet, so i'll be able to fix the backboard in place and glue down the buildings.
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andykins
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Posted - 07/13/2011 : 08:51:24 AM
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little update, as i said else where our club hired the hall we meet in for the whole sat, prime time for me to get the backboard up, with the layout on some legs (from another layout) and with plenty of extra hands to help. anyway i got there at about half 9 (after forgetting... yes thats right the backboards.) and set about unpacking and getting the legs out of our damp shed (we are hoping we get one of the nice brick sheds, since a group that has one is leaving, so unless the hall finds another 5 day a week all day booker we might get it) and set up and started work. our club chairman nick gave me a hand and we soon had them up after a little fiddleing about getting them lined up. keep in mind the blue paint is just to seal the MDF.

i also fidded little blocks made up of the same 2"x1" and mdf as on the backboard, this not only brings the front of the layput upto leval when being packed, but also protects the front. and when boxed up its a neat tidy strong safe "coffin" (as some people call them) to ferry the layout around and store it in.

today i started fixing things down, im not 100% sure if i am doing it right, but i thought it would be easier to lay some tile grout before the buildings, ive fitted the farm suppler and the garage and it seams to have worked well so far, i think a bit easier then trying to lay grout around an already fixed building. i also glued in the the rusty rails castings in the garage yard. and started to fill the joints, however while they where nice and flat when the grout was dry, since wetting and glueing its droped. so i'll have to go over it again when dry. ive also "dry run" stuff like larger details and fences so it made a mark so i know where to fix them later. any advice would be helpful. i think ive got things the right away around. cheers
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andykins
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Posted - 07/13/2011 : 11:08:31 AM
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thanks bill. heres somemore. the fencing isnt fixed


you can see what i mean by where the tile grout has diped in the joints around the bases of the castings. need a bit more work
 bet the local kids get in this way, i suspect the hunt for parts to make carts.
its all very "mono tone" not helped by the fact its still wet, but i will go over with more grout, as well as real dirt, brown WS turf etc. im really iching to get going on putting some green on the scene, not helped by martins efforts on his layouts, ive got an old brush in the garge and im iching to start to make some bushes hahaha
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Posted - 07/14/2011 : 05:19:39 AM
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Very nice scene, Andy. Indeed, adding bushes in front of the fence will add interest. You don't need many to make the whole thing quite alive.
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andykins
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Posted - 07/14/2011 : 06:45:00 AM
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thanks frederic. i quite agree, its going to be hard for me to not over do the grass in places. if i had it my way most of the sidings and some of the main tracks would be covered in grass, but i suspect the trains might not work as well with the effect id love from the image in my head hehe
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andykins
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Posted - 07/18/2011 : 06:54:29 AM
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as i said the other day in our lanuge, i have sore fingers.
and this is why

after blending in the trailer base and fixing the outhouse i was at a bit of a loss what to do, so i made a start on the tree that will hide one of the 90' angles in the sky, its based on a white oak, but much "squashed" to fit the 9 inches of backscene. its been years since i last made a tree so im not really sure how im going to cover it (how do you guys do it?) but its all made from the steel wire used to armer cable, twisted into 4-5 lenghts, then those 4-5 twisted at the base and worked from there, with a few shorter single lenghts soldered in place, i also made a few "roots" showing on the suface.
i have started another to go the other side of the fright shed. and i may do one to go between the dinner and garage. but i wont be able to go to far sinc ei'll need to wait till i have the backscene fixed with the sky paper on so i can tweek them to fit. cheers guys
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Posted - 07/18/2011 : 08:10:08 AM
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Andy Most cool progress, I too like the sanded grout, I often mix sifted dirt and stone with my grout to add more than the sandy beach approach. Did you wet with just water? I wet with water and then eye dropper with 50-50 acrylic medium...makes the grout not so brittle.
The building flats look good too...most cool on the fence too.
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andykins
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Posted - 07/18/2011 : 08:45:21 AM
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thanks les! yeah i mixed mine with real dirt, WS drit turf, buff/brown and grey ballest, but in stages, so id lay glue (neat pva) stift grout onto that (the darker one) and set it wet water, followed an hour or so later by pva/water with some alcohol in it then the next day go back over with extra colours (lighter grout) and textures and shades with ballest and dirt, then fix that down again with wet water followed by pva/water with alcohol, ever thought to try something like acrylic medium, but i stuck with what i know works. thanks again.
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Posted - 07/18/2011 : 11:35:59 AM
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Andy, She's coming along very nicely. I enjoyed my visit this morning. That going to be a magnificent tree when your done. I think you should add a few weeds in the junk yard too. They love to grow out from anything that shelters them form the "pickers". Are you hiding a transfer table behind the tree?
Keep it coming, please.
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dallas_m
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Posted - 07/18/2011 : 12:16:11 PM
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Your scenes are shaping up very nicely ... and the big tree will be a nice touch! (Clever fix for hiding that corner.)
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