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dallas_m
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 Posted - 04/27/2010 : 11:39:33 AM
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Gettin' the itch ...
... to start scratchbuilding! So please have a look and let me know your thoughts and suggestions before I dive in and miss the good ideas! 
Here's the spot on my future 35n2 layout where I'd like to make a home for Chambers Gas & Oil. Intention is to make it very much a "foreground" feature right at the front corner of the layout, with a detailed interior and a variety of mini scenes as promoted on Mike's site. (The layout is a small 3x6' job with ye olde basic loop. 35n2 = 2 foot gauge in 1:35 scale.)
This was the original "concept sketch" for transforming Mike's original Faulk's Oil into Chamber's Gas & Oil for this layout.
Tried to maximize the footprint of the building to allow plenty of action inside. Realized that I could increase the footprint a bit and allow a better view of the interior by rotating the structure 90 degrees from what I originally planned. Interior design should allow for two workbenches, a desk, a stove or heater, plenty of floor space for equipment like welding cart and compressor ... and lots of wall space for shelves full of boxes, cans and gadgets. Overall footprint for the structure is 18'6" wide x 28' long ... plus another 5' out front for the porch area.
Here's a preliminary view of the front-end. The end is 18'6" wide x 12'6" high (wall) or 18'9" high at the peak. Doors and windows will be scratchbuilt, so sizes and shapes can be changed ... let me know what you think.
Here's a preliminary sketch of the long wall facing the viewer ... think I'll have to shift that window to the left a bit ... again, thoughts welcome.
Used those drawings and some foamcore to make a mock-up. The "foundation" on the long wall is lower than shown on the end. I'm leaning toward the lower profile as shown on that long wall ...
The big doors and foreground location of the building should provide a good view of the interior ...
Chambers Gas & Oil should become a popular hang-out for the local railfans! As soon as Mr. Mudgeon gets his eye fixed, he'll see what he can do about getting these guys some arms.
Suggestions welcome (and wanted)! Please let me know your thoughts and ideas before I start choppin' up the stripwood and such. Thanks in advance! 
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mainetrains
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Posted - 04/27/2010 : 2:59:36 PM
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I don't know if you want to give those guys arms since, if my eyes aren't fooling me, it looks like there's a hot babe inside the garage.
Looks like a good plan to me. I'll be interested in watching your progress.
Dave 
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Rick
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Posted - 04/27/2010 : 3:37:12 PM
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Dallas, I agree about moving the one window to the left.
The other thing that catches my eye is how small the engine looks in comparison to the building.
I'm sure it's to scale and maybe it's just the camera playing tricks with the angles.
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hon3_rr
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Posted - 04/27/2010 : 3:38:12 PM
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Frederic Testard
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Posted - 04/27/2010 : 6:07:51 PM
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Larry, the engine also seems to be smaller than the car, which suggests it might really be a bit small.
I'm not sure about shifting the window. In any case, no more than one or two boards. I can't really explain why but I find that its current location very out of center gives some intrigue to the side of the building.
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elliott-maine
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Posted - 04/27/2010 : 6:53:27 PM
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I think one or two boards to the left would look a bit better, as long as the door, if fully opened, did not block the window.
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dallas_m
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Posted - 04/27/2010 : 11:18:06 PM
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Thanks you, gentlemen! Looks like we have a "go" with a slight shift of that one window. If moved about one board to the left, it'll be centered between the wide-open door and the corner of the building ...
Dave -- Good idea about keeping those fellows 'armless! I've promised that if Mr. Mudgeon is a good boy at the eye doctor, he deserves some "eye candy". His future assistant is the town's cutest mechanic ... Lefty Lucie!
Rick -- You're right, the loco is too small! It's actually a Fleischmann Magic Trains loco in "Oe" (German version of On30, in 1:43.5 scale I believe). Very smooth running mechanism and a good bit chunkier than an On30 Davenport, so that'll make a good starting point for a 1/35 conversion ... eventually. For those interested in such things, Marc Reusser has a 1/32 scale conversion of the On30 Davenport underway here and a more detailed thread here. Many of the little "real world" industrial locos are as small or smaller than a car. When I lived in Colorado, Caboose Hobbies had a tiny chain-drive mining loco inside the store at the end of one of the aisles ... dunno if it's still there.
Frederic -- Thanks, if you hadn't said something, I might have moved the window too far. Also, after allowing my own eyes to recover for a couple days, I think I can see well enough to fix Mudgeon's eye ...
Lots going on now ... will start actual construction as time allows ... and have lots of little detail parts to prep when time is short. Likely to be plenty more questions as this thing develops, so keep yer thinking caps on ... appreciate the help!
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dallas_m
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Posted - 04/28/2010 : 1:58:44 PM
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Off to a rocky start!
Began working on the foundation ... more as things develop ...
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wesleybeks
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Posted - 04/28/2010 : 3:19:42 PM
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This is a top nothch thread Dallas. I enjoy all of your posts.
Will you be colouring the rock foundation or leaving it as is?
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Frederic Testard
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Posted - 04/28/2010 : 4:57:32 PM
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The stone foundation looks nice, Dallas.
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dallas_m
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Posted - 04/29/2010 : 04:28:58 AM
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Wes -- The "preview" photo for the foundation was shot with the flash while the stones were still wet, so the contrast is a bit exaggerated there. That said, I'm sure I'll end up doing something to the coloring ... but might wait until I have some walls built and covered in siding so I can see how the foundation and walls will/should look together ...
Figure it'll take two or three more sessions to finish the foundation. One to build up the remaining height (just a fraction more) ... another to get the top leveled off to fit the framing ... then whatever's needed to wrap it up. All experimental so far, but looks like its going to work  ... been shooting pix and taking notes along the way ... more of those to come.
Geezer -- glad you're here to keep me in line!
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Frederic Testard
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Posted - 04/29/2010 : 04:52:21 AM
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This approach on building the foundation looks interesting and reminds us of how the real world is shaped.
Concerning the colour of the stones, I also found there was some heavy contrast and thought it could be a matter of something not being dry. But it will certainly need some work to kill the uniformity of the interstone space. I don't know what material you plan to use, but if I were to do it myself, I think it would be the perfect place for pastel work.
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dallas_m
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Posted - 04/29/2010 : 05:53:01 AM
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Planning to use weathered white siding on the structure ... similar to the siding on the smaller O scale shed shown here. Shot these photos without the flash, after the work dried overnight ... so not only is the contrast less, but it's actually going to need some coloring to bring back a bit of contrast. (I think)
Another shot with the O scale shed. This is the area where I "started" the experiment, so probably where there's the most work to be done. Will be filling in the missing mortar, and probably adding some pieces of the stone where there's too much mortar between stones. Some of the lighter stones sort of "disappear" into the mortar, so I think Frederic's idea of starting with pastels sounds really good.
Hoping to do some more "overall" work on building up the foundation height later today ... and plan to experiment with breaking the little stones to make fill-in pieces. Once the "masonry" is done, I'll probably let it all dry again, then hit it with a thin black wash and start in with pastels as suggested ...but open to further ideas too! (Thanks)
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dallas_m
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Posted - 04/29/2010 : 06:50:04 AM
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Well, as I'm getting ready to head off to work today, I had the passing thought that I can always scrap the current foundation and start over if needed ... so I shot this photo with some 1/35 detail parts (and the O scale shed) to remind myself that the foundation is NOT the foreground subject! Dunno about you guys, but sometimes I get hung up on a particular "part" of a project without really thinking about its overall place in the finished scene or item ...
In keeping with Mike's original Faulks Oil, there will be lots of detail parts, junk and clutter around the building. So, I'll do my best to make the foundation look like a natural part of the whole and welcome your thoughts and ideas along the way. If I get too obsessed or stop short of that goal, just give me a nudge! One of the things that's really great about the Forum is it helps eliminate the "challenge" of figuring things out by ourselves. Thanks again.
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