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CieloVistaRy
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 Posted - 10/03/2009 : 7:56:44 PM
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Karl,
Outstanding build!
I would like to know more about how you did the ground.. I especially like the level of attention to the details on it, especially in the size of the terrain, the gradation of the dirt, etc. Could you please explain a bit more about this? Also what materials did you use for the dirt road? It looks very fine and fits in pretty well!
Arthur
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UKGuy
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Posted - 10/03/2009 : 8:42:42 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by CieloVistaRy
Karl,
Outstanding build!........
Thank you very much Arthur.
quote:
Originally posted by CieloVistaRy
Karl,
............ and fits in pretty well!
only 'pretty well'? I see thats another area I need to work on more....
The ground cover is a combination of what I learned from MikeC when I first joined the RRL and blended with Bretts technique from the manual.
All of my ground cover up till this project was done using Mike's technique of sanded grout, the blend I use is 2 parts linen to one part tobbacco. For heavy foot/vehicle traffic areas I have generally just rubbed my finger tip over the area to smooth it off(remove the coarse sand) when it was dryed and then dusted the area with a make-up brush and the dry grout mix, using the grout as you would chalk to do weathering, then blow off the excess.
In the manual Brett suggests to use real dirt and to mix in small stones and some 'ground cover' before application.
The dirt here(in my yard) is mainly clay based and it has been a very rainy 3 weeks, so, real dirt was out, plus I wanted have ease of consistancy in ground colour/cover over the coming years.
So, I used the sanded grout in the method taught to me by MikeC and combined this with the methods learned from Brett in the manual. The blend of sanded grout as previously mentioned, mixed with 'light buff fine talus' from WS and a sprinkling of 'floral moss (after it went through the blender)' for the basic ground cover.
I then removed the moss from areas I didnt want it with tweasers (like walkways).
And added a little more talus on the edges of the road and the center, again removing excess with tweasers.
A light dusting using a small brush with the dry grout on the areas I wanted lightened, ie the wheel ruts and walkways and, job done.
Probably took me twice as long to type it as it did to do it but I hope it was clear, if not let me know and I'll take pics and explain better when I do the rigging shed which will need (I hope)to blend 'seemlessly' into this dio.
Karl.A
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UKGuy
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Posted - 10/03/2009 : 8:50:21 PM
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Thanks for the detailed info Frederic, I will need to check out the look of them if handlaid is the route I decide to take for the layout (which knowing me and the challenge involved....)
The price seems good enough but I'm sure for the few dios and limited track I will need to lay on them I'll just keep snipping away as and when I need them.
Thanks for the info and for a bigger project thats probably where I will be headed, although availability seems to have been a problem in the past from previous threads I have read in the ON30 forum, maybe this has been resolved.
Regards,
Karl.
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Frederic Testard
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Posted - 10/04/2009 : 4:55:35 PM
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Fast tracks seems to have them, Karl. I also bought some from PBL.
And I found the price info on the site of Valley Model Trains, who has the three sizes (at least one pack of each, in any case).
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Edited by - Frederic Testard on 10/04/2009 4:59:22 PM |
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CieloVistaRy
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Posted - 10/05/2009 : 12:02:41 PM
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Karl,
Thank you for your input. Much appreciated!
Arthur
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visman48
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Posted - 10/05/2009 : 5:27:00 PM
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Karl,
This sanded grout is exactly what I am looking for. Do you know of links that describe mixes and methods? Thanks
Les
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UKGuy
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Posted - 10/05/2009 : 6:05:07 PM
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Here's a great link for you on the subject ... I'll see if I have any more stored for you......
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26900&whichpage=16
Karl.A
EDITyou could also check out some of MikeC's build threads where he describes his method in detail, which is basically what I have used since joining. Just search on ... user 'MikeC' keyword 'grout' I'm sure you will get some hits, specify the 'Craftsmans Corner' forum.
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hon3_rr
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Posted - 07/01/2010 : 9:09:25 PM
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Back about a year ago I noted in this thread that I would be building this O scale kit for display on a Slim-Rails modular club unit. Well, the time has come to address that commitment. I'm reopening this thread for a couple of reasons rather then joining in on the current group build of this kit. (see http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=29685 for the group build.)
The first and foremost reason for continuing this thread is that I really admire the look and feel which Karl ended up with. I'm going to try to use Brett's techniques and Karl's approach to the kit to see if I can come anywhere close to what Karl created. By staying in this thread, not only is Karl's wonderful build brought back into the light, but readers can see what Karl said and did along with his results without having to change threads as I work through this kit.
I'm also going to admit that I'm a "newby" ... at least to "O" scale. Currently the guys over in the other thread have pretty much converted over to the 'dark side' and like Luke, keeping my distance for the time being may be a good thing.
I should be starting this kit in about 5 days, but I'm throwing out this 'feeler' to determine if there is going to be any objections about having two on-going build threads of the same kit. If there are some strong feelings about this, then I'll offer up my hands for handcuffs, and join the guys in the group build thread.
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BBLmber
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 Posted - 07/01/2010 : 10:17:01 PM
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Kris, I have no objections to your using this thread for your build. As far as the Dark Side, I don't think where you document your build it can sneak up on you anywhere. 
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BigLars
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Posted - 07/01/2010 : 10:22:36 PM
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Oh boy dueling builds, I here the banjos in the distance!
Kris, I will be following your build.
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onl26
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Posted - 07/02/2010 : 4:08:29 PM
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Hey KP
I still have to finish the Rigging shed but just about all the details are done and I'm getting close to putting it all together. The Tool shed is going right next to it and it is next on my list. I was also wondering what thread to join or whether I should start my own. If I get to it soon enough I would love to join your build if you would'nt mind.
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hon3_rr
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Posted - 07/02/2010 : 9:10:39 PM
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Kevin, It would be a pleasure and I encourage you to jump in. I would love to do a joint build with you!! I doubt that I'll be moving that fast through this kit as it is my first "O" scale kit and I'm not going to do anything with the kit until next Wednesday or Thursday at the earliest.
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onl26
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Posted - 07/02/2010 : 10:39:46 PM
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Sounds great KP and even if the Rigging shed is not complete I can start on the Tool shed anyway. This is the first time I've ever modeled in the summer so progress will be slow but it can still be fun. I'll share my "vast O scale experience" (the Rigging shed) with you. Seriously Kris I know you will really love the change in the size of things and the chance to get into some new techniques of weathering and distressing wood.
Kevin
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Posted - 07/03/2010 : 11:53:34 PM
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Wow- this On30 scale is really getting crowded. I think we should blame Brett!
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Frederic Testard
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Posted - 07/04/2010 : 10:14:24 AM
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More fine models to come. A great future for RR-Line craftsmanship!
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