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kirk
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Posted - 09/20/2010 :  4:50:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't think the overlar is a problem, and quite common in real life too... I alsoo think the scene looks really fine, although I'm not too fond of the righthand background photo with a lot of perspective, as it only will look right seen from one very low angle...

Troels Kirk
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Neil M
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Posted - 09/20/2010 :  4:56:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Troels.

I know what you mean about the photo - it's difficult to find preriod photos with a good perspective (and they are all black and white so will need to be coloured a some stage) but it's better than blank sky...for now


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AVRR-PA
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Posted - 09/20/2010 :  9:17:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit AVRR-PA's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi, Neil --

Lookin' good! Like Troels, I don't see a problem with a barge being slightly longer than the wharf.

Don



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Tyson Rayles
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Posted - 09/20/2010 :  10:18:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't have a problem with the overhang either but if it bothers you too much can you just back the shoreline up in front of the barge a inch or two? That way you wouldn't have to fool with the pier.


Edited by - Tyson Rayles on 09/20/2010 10:20:23 PM

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Neil M
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Posted - 09/21/2010 :  06:15:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The consensus seems to be that the length of the pier is fine, which is good to hear Thanks for your input

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jbvb
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Posted - 09/21/2010 :  07:14:45 AM  Show Profile  Visit jbvb's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The barge is a type used to handle bulk cargo, most commonly coal around NYC in that era. As it's positioned, it could be loaded by hand from the pier. I think they'd most likely have unloaded it with a small crane and clamshell bucket, either fixed, rail-mounted or on treads. The position looks reasonable.


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Neil M
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Posted - 09/21/2010 :  10:07:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That was what I was thinking James.

The barge was a kit for a flat topped barge but I decided to make in a coal carrier because so much coal was consumed in New York however in the future I intend to have a few barges with different cargoes that can be tied up at the pier so I want the pier to be able to handle anything.

I also was thinking about building a gantry crane over the pier and barge but I think I like a pillar crane better


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Neil M
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Posted - 10/07/2010 :  2:37:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi guys,
I have been working on the pier and have not glued together the frame and the track however I haven't made much of the deck yet. I was planning to add nut/bolt/washers to all the locations where they would be but I don't have enough (it needs loads!) so i will put them in the most visible locations only and hope no-one looks to closely



I have also been working on the transfer table scenery at the other end of the layout. The plan is that the scene will look complete regardless of which position the transfer table is in, since nothing like this existed in real life.

When it is back


and when it is forward

(scenery not completed)

however when the building in front of the transfer table is completed it will mask the area quite well


Works to continue...


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Tyson Rayles
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Posted - 10/07/2010 :  2:50:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking good Neil, however in that last picture there seems to be a lot of people sitting down on the job!



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ELK RIVER RR
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Posted - 10/07/2010 :  4:08:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Neil, On the nut and bolt castings in HO they are pritty small and if you cut small square of thin plastic and put a small drop of white glue on it and painted it black and rust it will look just fine. If someone says something just say there going to be replaced someday. Tom


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Neil M
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Posted - 10/08/2010 :  06:32:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tyson Rayles

Looking good Neil, however in that last picture there seems to be a lot of people sitting down on the job!


I know! Bloody lay-abouts. That track gang have never lifted a finger in work, but you know how it is with unionised labour. I don't want a general strike on my hands And the crossing guard appears to be asleep in the middle of the railroad crossing

Thanks for the suggestion Tom. I'll have a think and give that a try.


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Edited by - Neil M on 10/08/2010 06:36:20 AM

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AVRR-PA
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Posted - 10/08/2010 :  06:36:24 AM  Show Profile  Visit AVRR-PA's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sorry, Neil, but as the representative of the NBW Police, I must insist on complete prototypical correctness.

Don



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Neil M
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Posted - 10/08/2010 :  09:46:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I got a few different sizes of NBWs from Tichy but only one packet of each. I need about 170 for the pier and there are only about 90 in each pack!

I might think about using one size on the diagonals and another on the horizontal braces on each truss so I have enough because I'd like to get it done right, especially now I'm being watched and I saw how good they looked on your bridge, Don. I think the lack of NBWs is more obvious in the photos than in person.


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Rusty Stumps
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Posted - 10/23/2010 :  2:55:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Niel, it's looking real good, your Hoboken layout! I like the transfer table idea and working it into the layout the way you have. It's interesting watching it all come together. Keep up the great work.


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Neil M
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Posted - 10/23/2010 :  3:30:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Walt,
I have been busy with work (it's my second last week!) but I am planning on finishing the pier and covering it in those lovely crate castings you gave me when you came across



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