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visman48
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 Posted - 06/05/2012 : 09:51:44 AM
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Hey Verne,
I've been watching both threads, you are indeed having fun with that building. Where ever you place that building it should be a showcase. I only had one comment about the outside area, are you using the typical wood limb (don't remember the name) for the roof area? That would be most cool.
As far as the change of plans idea, I think abandoned or falling down building with lots of junk would be most fun, hard to model but most fun...maybe not so much adobe..but more worn out wood.
Les
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MinerFortyNiner
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Posted - 06/05/2012 : 10:02:33 AM
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Thanks Les, I am considering wood now over adobe as well...and plan some adobe ruins along the Burro Creek haul road in my unfinished section. I am leaning towards a worn looking blacksmith's shed, where the smithy is shoeing a horse.
As for the outside passenger area, I think you are referring to a ramada...like this?
These ramadas would be seen near homes or other places where people wanted shade from the desert sun, but the railroad would probably want to build something more substantial.
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visman48
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Posted - 06/05/2012 : 2:11:35 PM
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Verne,
Yup that is one of the thoughts, the other appears to be treelimbs and trunks (small and spindly) imbeded in the roofs, I just don't know what to call them. I like the ramada look..just so much one can do with it.
Les
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MinerFortyNiner
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Posted - 06/05/2012 : 5:46:58 PM
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Les, I think you are referring to vigas, the wood poles used to support roofs on adobe buildings. I like 'em too! 
As for ramadas, they have been made by native desert dwellers probably for thousands of years. They are simple, cheap shade, made from mesquite or ironwood branches and ocotillo stalks.
The cowboys known as the Mostly Painted Gang have been wondering about the strange doin's around the workbench today...wood getting cut, etc.
Then they ride over to the other side of the workbench and find these plans. Hmm...
Once everything is sanded and stained, construction commences.
By golly, we have a stock chute! Next it needs the NWB details and weathering...
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BigLars
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Posted - 06/05/2012 : 9:42:00 PM
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Don't you think that cow skill will tip the other cows off to their fate? Neat little structure.
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MinerFortyNiner
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Posted - 06/05/2012 : 11:38:53 PM
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Originally posted by BigLars
Don't you think that cow skill will tip the other cows off to their fate? Neat little structure.
Heh...maybe Lars, perhaps they are fatalists and resigned to their ultimate destination, then again maybe they don't care...the corral will be well stocked with fresh water and hay. The stockyard is far away, but today it's la vida del loca!
Here are some progress shots:
Here is an overall view of the corral. This scene is so sparse of large objects, it provides a great view of passing trains - and doesn't compete with the scenery behind.
This corral is used by cattle ranchers in the area, who drive them here for loading to market via the AV&W or E&SG.
The ramada is in place to provide some shade. This structure was originally beside my coke plant, right where you enter the railroad room. I removed it after a heart-stopping near miss, when a visitor's elbow nearly sent it to the scrap pile. It's much safer here!
The loading pen's basic structure is complete, I still need to finish the details. I don't like the shade of gray, it has too much blue, so I will give it a fine light tan mist with an airbrush to tone down the color. I like the proportions, it was fun to build (sharp eyes will note a few slight deviations from the plan posted above).
The biggest job remaining is the barbed wire...this will be rather time consuming to pull off. I tried fine metal wire, material from a Pegasus Hobbies barbed wire kit, and rust-colored thread - none looked good. I have settled on a rayon thread with square knots tied at approximately 1/8 inch intervals to simulate the barbs. It took me a long time just to complete one section for the left side of the corral, and I need four runs of barbed wire each side of the pen. Yikes!
I have a hand pump and need to make a water trough for the right side of the corral. The resting cowboy has moved out of the corral, guess he doesn't want to get trampled by an angry steer! I will also need to figure out how to make cow pies... 
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Ray Dunakin
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Posted - 06/06/2012 : 12:23:05 AM
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All the new additions look great, Verne! (Nice drawings, too.)
How did you cut down the hydrocal station castings?
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MinerFortyNiner
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Posted - 06/06/2012 : 12:51:27 AM
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Thanks, Ray! I haven't cut the castings yet, see my explanation here: http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=36976
To sum up, once I added all the architectural doodads and station sign, there wasn't much vertical space to cut. I'm putting the station in a new scene created just for it on the unfinished side of the layout.
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Geezer
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dallas_m
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Posted - 06/06/2012 : 04:15:30 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by MinerFortyNiner
Here is an overall view of the corral. This scene is so sparse of large objects, it provides a great view of passing trains - and doesn't compete with the scenery behind.
Well played, sir!
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quarryman
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Posted - 06/06/2012 : 07:09:49 AM
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Verne-
Bridal tulle may be a possibility for barbed wire. If you can find some with an acceptable mesh, cutting along the length of one strand will yield "barbs".
As a tourista from back east, I would half expect the corral to be full of sheep, herded by Navajo.
Mark
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andykins
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Posted - 06/06/2012 : 08:03:22 AM
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looks good, like the loading ramp. guess we'll see some stock cars soon? another sorce for Frijolene maybe? :P
bill, i think i saw some from keith wiseman. on this ebay store i think, i recall he also has some "road kill" animals too :P
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elwoodblues
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Posted - 06/06/2012 : 09:14:40 AM
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Originally posted by BigLars
Don't you think that cow skill will tip the other cows off to their fate? Neat little structure.
Naaaaa...they think they are just going on a vacation. 
Verne, nice addition and it doesn't overpower the scene behind it, like Dallas said "well played",
As for a source for barb wire, try razor wire from the war gaming world. I bought some a couple of years ago and it looks just like barb wire. Here is an example, http://www.modelingmadness.com/scott/accessories/pombwire.htm
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MinerFortyNiner
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Posted - 06/06/2012 : 09:24:14 AM
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Geezer, thanks...check out the Virtual Dollhouse, they have a variety of cow skulls and horns.
Thanks, Dallas.
Mark, great idea...I still have some tulle from an N scale diesel grille project back ten years ago! Never thought of using it as you mentioned, I will give it a try. As for the sheep vs. cattle, the iconic scenes of Navajo herding sheep are from the northeast corner of the state, a world away from the Sonoran Desert. The war between cattlemen and sheep herders has been the topic of many a B western movie. The pen could be used for either, as ranchers do raise both across the state. Sheep become more scarce the further south you travel in Arizona, probably due to the heat. PS: I am not sure if this scene meets the 'WWFTD', as Frederic hasn't weighed in yet!
Andy, great idea...and yes, I have some of Dallas' stock car kits that are on the short list for completion now. Loading stock at the pen is one more little operations quirk I can fit into the mix, as the pen is located on the main line...requiring through trains to slow down and use the passing siding.
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railman28
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Posted - 06/06/2012 : 09:37:49 AM
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This ramada and coral scene is going to look real neat. Barbed wire corals aren't often done because getting the wire looking real has been a problem. Don't forget the cow pies! They could give Fretolene some competition or at least another on line industry.
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