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rsmilley
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 Posted - 11/06/2007 : 7:30:56 PM
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Hi All,
I really hope these notes are helpful for everyone... I didn't take notes in EVERY clinic, but I did my best to jot down info about materials & colors & formulas & process steps.
As you can see, each of our clinicians tends to have their own "techniques". I think this has been one of the mysteries to me that is now solved - there is not just "ONE way" or a "BEST way" to do things in this hobby. The cool thing is that we got to see and/or hear about a variety of methods to do the same thing; now we can each try them out on our own and find the one that works best for us.
So I've included my notes in three formats:
1) cut & paste below into this posting.
2) attached as a MS Word file.
3) attached as a .txt file.
I imagine there are many others who attended the show who may be able to supplement and/or correct my notes. Please feel free to add more info to this thread... I'll be cutting and pasting any additional notes into my own running list.
Painting & Weathering Wood Walls - with Bob Mitchell
Some suggested materials:
Peeling Paint:
- Windsor & Newton – Art Masking Fluid: Apply w/sponge or stipple w/cheap brush.
good Weathering Paints:- WalMart paints
- Folk Art Paints: Light Oxide Red, Terra Cotta, Linen (great for concrete)
good Paints for Windows & Detail Castings:
- Tamiya paints; for priming – tan, gray, brown (color codes: AS-15, AS-22, AS-4)
good Brick Mortor Paint:
- Tempurpaint
good Etchant solution:
- Rio Grande
- did NOT recommend Woodland Scenics etchant
good Weathering Powders:
- Sierra Scale Models (mix w/alchohol)
- Bragdon Powders
- Rustall (this is the only 1 that is especially unique in the set)
good Glues:
- Carpenters Glue or thick CA (for attaching Metal Castings to Wood)
- Canopy Glue
- Aleene’s Sticky Glue
- Wellbond Glue
Some suggested painting processes:
Wood Walls:
Step 1: A&I stain on both sides (or similar) (allow to dry)
Step 2: prep for peeling paint as desired (allow to dry)
Step 3: dry brush / stipple with desired wall color (2-3 shades of desired color) (allow to dry)
Step 4: distress wood; add nail holes, broken ends, etc as desired
Step 5: A&I wash over top of dried, distressed wood (allow to dry)
Step 6: dry brush w/light colors – paint and/or chalks
Brick Walls (plaster):
Step 1: light matte finish (allow to dry)
Step 2: apply red color (allow to dry)
Step 3: apply mortar color wash (allow to dry)
Step 4: add weathering colors / chalks as desired (allow to dry)
Step 5: add final matte finish (allow to dry)
Masonry Walls (plaster):
Step 1: light matte finish (allow to dry)
Step 2: apply tan & brown colors (individual stones) (allow to dry)
Step 3: turpentine + oil-based paints for weathering (very diluted browns & blacks) (allow to dry)
Step 4: add final matte finish (allow to dry)
Tissue Paper (good for rolled tar-paper roofs, tarps, etc):
Step 1: paint or spray paint w/ brown or black paints (allow to dry)
Step 2: dry brush (carefully) (allow to dry)
Step 3: cut to size or strips
Step 4: apply to location with diluted carpenters glue
Alternative Materials - with Bob Mitchell
- PrismaColor Markers - good for painting & weathering wood
- DecoColor Markers - good for painting sides of rails & ties
- Figma Micron Markers - good weathering markers (brush or pencil versions)
- Kneaded Artist Eraser - absorbs graphite
- Sponges - rubber cement pickup sponge – picks up rubber cement for peeling paint
- Sierra Scale Models – weathering powders
- Detail Enhancer – Testors #2790
- Sierra Scale Models (mix w/alchohol)
- Tamiya Finishing Abrasive – for track cleaning (800 or 1000)
- Glues: G.S. Hypo Cement, Walthers Goo, Crafters Pick
Board by Board Construction - with Brett Gallant
Wood Walls – General Painting & Weathering Prep Process:
Step 1: Stain wood
Step 2: Add texture
Step 3: Add details
Formula for Wood Base Stain:
- 20 oz of water
- ½ teaspoon of India Ink (water-soluble version)
- 1 teaspoon of PollyScale Roof Brown
- 1 teaspoon of PollyScale Oily Black
- 1-¼ teaspoon PollyScale RR Tie Brown
Process for Staining Wood:
- Soak wood in small tub or plastic zip-lock baggie for range of time from 6 to 24 hours – to get a variety of color.
- Shake/ mix periodically.
- Allow to dry on paper towel.
Advanced Techniques - with Brian Nolan
Formula for Wood Base Stain:
- fill an empty 1oz bottle w/mineral spirits – nearly to the top (90% full)
- add 4.5% of Floquil Grime color
- add 4.5% of Floquil Earth color
- add just a touch (1 %) of Floquil Roof Brown color
Wood Walls – General Painting & Weathering Prep Process:
Step 1: Stain wood w/above formula (allow to dry)
Step 2: Add texture w/wire brush
Step 3: Use Bragdon Powders (brown) to get into grain of wood (sometimes wash w/mineral spirits) (allow to dry)
Step 4: Dry Brush w/ earth tones (country tan, driftwood, grays - darker colors first, then lighter colors) (allow to dry between layers of different color)
Formula for Stone-Work Base Stain:
- w/mineral spirits, mix a few drops of paint (make a separate stain solution for each):
Testors ModelMaster enamal paints: wood, light gull gray, military brown
Makes a very light, transparent stain; apply multiple coats of layered paint
Stone-Work (plaster) – General Painting & Weathering Prep Process:
Step 1: Stain rocks w/above stains (allow to dry between each layer; color individual stones w/different colors)
Step 2: When dry, apply mortar lines: very fine misting of wet water over entire casting (just enough to get into mortar lines; apply thinned PollyScale Roof Brown wash into mortar lines.
Creating Peeling Paint Affect on Wood Walls:
Step 1: Wet w/mineral Spirits
Step 2: Apply acrylic paint (PollyScale water-based) w/’shader brush”; allow to absorb into wood, but not fully dry.
Step 3: Using #11 xacto blade point, add some wood grains.
Step 4: Allow to dry slightly, with #11 xacto blade point, scrape / peel away some of the globs of paint collecting over the mineral spirits.
Step 4: Allow to completely dry, apply A&I wash.
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onl26
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Posted - 11/06/2007 : 7:59:49 PM
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Hey Steve
Great idea, thanks for putting all these notes in one place.
Kevin
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Peterpools
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 Posted - 11/06/2007 : 8:23:04 PM
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Steve
Thanks for posting all the information as a MS Word File. I've downloaded and saved the files.
Peter 
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simon1966
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Posted - 11/06/2007 : 8:27:24 PM
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Steve, a great idea, thanks. I was struggling to read some of my notes made in the dark and this has provided some much needed clarity.
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KVRailfan
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Posted - 11/06/2007 : 8:47:04 PM
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Great Steve, this is a big help .
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kay4pacific
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Posted - 11/06/2007 : 10:28:21 PM
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Steve,
I'm sure everyone is very thankful for your notes. Seeing I was unable to attend the seminars, this is a great help. Kudos are very much in order. TY.
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Jerry M
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Posted - 11/06/2007 : 11:03:26 PM
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Got it and thank you, very considerate of you to share...
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bruno
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Posted - 11/07/2007 : 12:54:15 AM
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THANK YOU STEEVE. THIS IS THE REASON WHY I LOVE THIS SITE. INFO IS SHARE.THIS WILL BE HELPFUL TO A LOT OF US.SPECIALY TO ME,AN AMATEUR.AND NEW WAYS TO BUILD.
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Rick
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Posted - 11/07/2007 : 06:39:05 AM
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Thanks Steve. I wasn't able to attend a single seminar, so this is very helpful.
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slimjerkins
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Posted - 11/07/2007 : 06:41:32 AM
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Thanks Steve
Great job. I'm nominating you for the recording secretary spot.
-slim
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Old Fogy
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Posted - 11/07/2007 : 07:12:20 AM
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Very thoughtful of you, Steve, to post this info. Thank you.
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Danny Head
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Posted - 11/07/2007 : 07:57:37 AM
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Steve...... YOU are the man! Thanks so much. This is extremely thoughtful and will go in my file. I will start trying some of these methods right away. The folks in this forum are the best. Danny Head Guntersville, Al.
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BrianZ
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Posted - 11/07/2007 : 08:05:29 AM
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Thanks Steve, great notes! 
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PaulS
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Posted - 11/07/2007 : 09:09:29 AM
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Steve,
Very nice to meet you at the show and thanks so much for posting the notes from the clinics. I did not attend all of them and your notes are far better than the ones I took from those I attended....
Thanks again, much appreciated,
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JohnJ
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Posted - 11/07/2007 : 09:21:43 AM
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Steve: Thanks for sharing your notes. Really helpful for those of us who could not attend.
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