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LVRALPH
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  10:07:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jens, what size rivet are you using for HO?


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teejay
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  10:13:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ralph , I used Tichy .035" rivets ...200 pieces per pack # 8020 . You can get them through Walthers I think .


Jens , I bought a CD from Chip Syme of Ackron , Ohio. You can visit his site if you Google " Chip Syme's Penn Central" . I think I paid about $25 U.S. for about 200 pictures ...NOT ALL ARE DETAILS ! Some are far off shots .

I can send you some of mine if you don't want to buy the CD. There may be other sources out there ,too .

Terry



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LVRALPH
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  10:13:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Terry, those pics are awesome. Got more?



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JBL
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  10:32:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teejay



Jens , I bought a CD from Chip Syme of Ackron , Ohio. You can visit his site if you Google " Chip Syme's Penn Central" . I think I paid about $25 U.S. for about 200 pictures ...NOT ALL ARE DETAILS ! Some are far off shots .





Thanks. I will order a CD when I am back from my holidays.




Ralph, here I have used the .30" rivets, but I will use the 0.20" rivets too.



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teejay
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  10:51:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm happy to post some of the Hulett pics here , but I don't want to confuse this thread by posting a bunch at the same time . I can help you guys through emails if you wish .

Chip Syme is one of the "old school" types I love to deal with .

Chip- " I'll send you the CD and you can pay me the money if you like what you see. If not , just send the CD back " . Needless to say , I bought the CD , sent the $$ and followed up to make sure he recieved it .

Chip was at the Steel SIG in Cleveland this past spring ....wish I could have got to that , just to meet the guy .

This sounds like a fun thread but will probably only have Ralph , Jens and myself building the model . I think we can help each other a lot with info , drawings , pics and such . Let's go !

Terry



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JBL
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  10:58:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Let's go !



Thats what I wanted to hear!

I will send you both revised cutting templates and isometrical drawings tomorrow.



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teejay
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  11:09:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is what we are building , guys . As you can see , the Huletts were used in groups of two to four . I'll be building two due to selective compression on my layout . I have the Edmund Fitzgerald ore freighter mostly done , so will have the deck hatches open for the Hulett to access the inside .



T



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LVRALPH
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  11:43:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jens, I printed out the templates you sent me and I have a couple of questions. I discovered a mm scale on the back of my HO scale ruler. It matched perfect the scale you provided. However I am confused. How do these templates translate into HO feet? That is how I measure things. If I apply the HO scale to the parts, is that the measurement?

Also the thickness in thousanths of your sheet parts. I know you were confused by the way we measure things over here, but that is important. Thicknesses over .020 will not give a reliable straight edge cut, and in order to make a thicker piece they would have to be laminated. Remember, we do not have the tool you have to make precise cuts. Thanks for the help!

Terry, do you have a set of Mikes Huelett drawings?



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teejay
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  11:58:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes , Ralph , I have Mike's drawings .

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LVRALPH
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  12:07:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by teejay

Yes , Ralph , I have Mike's drawings .

T



looks like I have to get on the stick and get my order out this week. I just spent 1 hour on the Tichy site ordering a whole bunch of stuff, mainly rivets and NBW's. They have a sale 20% off. Twice I did this. When you proceed to checkout it blows you out and you lose your whole shopping cart. God I'm Po'd!



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JBL
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  12:13:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LVRALPH

Jens, I printed out the templates you sent me and I have a couple of questions. I discovered a mm scale on the back of my HO scale ruler. It matched perfect the scale you provided.


Perfect! Now you are sure, you have printed it out correctly. (no re-size by printer/software)


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However I am confused. How do these templates translate into HO feet? That is how I measure things. If I apply the HO scale to the parts, is that the measurement?


These parts are in HO scale. Just cut them in the same size as printed out.

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Also the thickness in thousanths of your sheet parts. I know you were confused by the way we measure things over here, but that is important. Thicknesses over .020 will not give a reliable straight edge cut, and in order to make a thicker piece they would have to be laminated. Remember, we do not have the tool you have to make precise cuts. Thanks for the help!



To get this straight: Inches are crap, Millimeters are fine. LOL.

.020 is 0.5mm
.040 is 1.0mm

I wont use any sheets thicker than 1mm because I know about this problem. But 1mm can be cut good enough. If not you may use your putty and sanding paper in the end.
You dont want to cut completely through the sheet. You just scratch the sheet and break it. Just like chocolate.
Dont be too afraid, it does not have to be hyper-precise. Having square corners is much more important.
I dont have that tool since ever and I can remember how things were done before.
If you will have problems to make a specific part, please tell me and I try to show how to do it, ok?



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LVRALPH
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  12:15:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So I can measure from the templates you sent and get started, right? There goes work on the Sayre Coal bunker!


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JBL
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  12:20:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by LVRALPH

So I can measure from the templates you sent and get started, right?



Yes, Sir!



(If you cant wait for the revised drawings you have figure out yourself which parts are used multiple times ). All parts 1mm/ .040" thickness.

P.S. a hint for the Tichy-site: Use IE from microsoft for your shopping.





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LVRALPH
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  12:45:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jens, I can wait. By that time my Rabbitt drawings will be here. Thanks for the IE/Tichey tip!




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LVRALPH
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  7:06:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I took an hour and flew over to this modeling flower to see what was going on. So Jens would not feel all alone I made a stab at the most complex piece. First i ordered some rivets from Tichy.

Next, I put some feet and inch markings on the first set of templates that Jens e mailed to me.




Then I cut 2 pieces 21 ft 3 by 16 ft out of .040 styrene sheet.











I got one side complete. OK, next project I'm done!










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