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Chuck Doan
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Posted - 04/06/2006 :  5:52:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=107

For those so inclined...

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nalmeida
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Posted - 04/06/2006 :  5:55:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's a great article Chuck, thanks.

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Tim Kerkhoff
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Posted - 04/06/2006 :  7:19:33 PM  Show Profile  Send Tim Kerkhoff a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Very nice barb wire, it looks time consuming. I seen a kit made by Great West for chain link fence and barb wire. It looks great on the layout, but I am not sure if the owner had to make the barb wire, or if it came that way.

I enjoyed the tutorial and will put it in my files.

Thanks Chuck



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acousticco
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Posted - 04/07/2006 :  01:13:13 AM  Show Profile  Visit acousticco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here's another bit on barbed wire I came across a while back:
http://forum.gn15.info/viewtopic.php?t=1011

-Cody



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Posted - 04/07/2006 :  03:59:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thought I'd try it with some modifications to the technique. Here's a very quick attempt/test at it in O-scale.

The 2 strands shown were about a 1/2-hours worth of effort..from cutting to color.





Wire is .002 copper. Barb spacing is .080"

Marc



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nalmeida
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Posted - 04/07/2006 :  04:49:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seems a very good representation of the real thing Marc, spacing looks good and the size of the spikes looks right.

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I have samples of some 20-30 different types of old "Bob Wire"...you'd be amazed at how different they are.

For fun this might be interesting to some.....its all about "The Devils Rope"....
http://www.barbwiremuseum.com/barbedwireimages.htm

Marc



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nalmeida
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Posted - 04/07/2006 :  07:12:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the link Marc, never thought there were so many varieties.

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marthastrainyard
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Posted - 04/07/2006 :  09:44:24 AM  Show Profile  Visit marthastrainyard's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nalmeida

Thanks for the link Marc, never thought there were so many varieties.


There's an IHOP (I think) on Central Expressway in Plano (planet of Texas) that has a large display of barb wire above the cash register. Makes for some real interesting studies while waiting.

Back to the OP. What scale is this used for? I see from all the dioramas that the OP's prefered scale is O. Will this work in HO as well?



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teejay
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Posted - 04/07/2006 :  10:20:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Chuck and Marc ( love your new avitar , Marc )

I think I can use that in an industrial setting very effectively ...top of a concrete wall or whatever .

Terry



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k9wrangler
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Posted - 04/07/2006 :  1:51:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've never been so inclined but there are those who collect and catalog all the varieties of barbed wire they can. Much like lantern collectors, tie date collectors and all us railroadiana collectors.

Karl Scribner
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Kentucky Southern Rwy & Associated Lines
Sunfield Twp. Michigan


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Tim Kerkhoff
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Posted - 04/07/2006 :  4:09:38 PM  Show Profile  Send Tim Kerkhoff a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Marc,

The barb wire looks terrific, no doubt all the LP will need to wear gloves.



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Posted - 04/07/2006 :  4:13:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks guys...was an interesting experiment...thanks to Chuck for inspiring it and motivating me.

It'll keep all those Martin Cahill type LP's from "creepin and stealin" at night when I'm not looking.

Marc




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MikeC
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Posted - 04/07/2006 :  5:12:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit MikeC's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That looks great, Marc. I'm not sure I'd want to try that in HO, though.

quote:
Originally posted by nalmeida

Thanks for the link Marc, never thought there were so many varieties.



Nelson, like Karl said, there are folks who have entire collections of different styles from different eras. There are even museums that have barbed wire collections and displays. It's pretty interesting to learn about the different styles and how they were used in various areas of the country.



Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm a busy man. I have a railroad to run.


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Hume Lumber Co
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Posted - 04/08/2006 :  8:20:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit Hume Lumber Co's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Chuck thanks for the link. I expect to see some barbwire somewhere around your barn soon.

Marc your barbwire looks great, but I think something may craw under your fence.

You know I love to see these details, but it always disturbs me that it does not say DO NOT try this in HO or smaller scale. Here is my attempt to make my own wire.

My primitive tools & supplies:

Electric drill motor
Fingernail (or toenail) clippers
Tape
Supper glue
Rubber band
Toothpick
1/32” brass wire (rod)
very thin hair like wire (I use some strains from a braided wire)

Warning: May not give best results for HO or smaller scales.

Procedure:
1. Tape two wires to toothpick.
2. Place toothpick with wires connected into drill chuck.
3. Run electric drill holding free end of wire between fingers. Keep running until wire is twisted to desired amount.
4. Attach toothpick and twisted wires to edge of desk and connect other end to rubber band, which may be connected to arm on chair. This provides a taunt wire.
5. Get another wire and twist it 2.5 times around base wire as shown in link above.
6. For spacing use 1/32” brass wire or what ever spacing desired for barbs. (Sorry not a good picture, but you get the idea of how to do the spacing on the loops.)

7. Continue steps 5 and 6 until all the end of the wire.
8. Use fingernail clippers to cut wire loops to make barbs.

Here are the results I got:


A close up:


I think the wire is just too large for HO scale, but I don’t think I could get much thinner wire and if I did I think it would be too difficult to work with.


Blessings,

Matthew



Edited by - Hume Lumber Co on 04/08/2006 8:22:23 PM

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bpate
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Posted - 04/12/2006 :  6:18:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit bpate's Homepage  Send bpate a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Chuck for the tutorial. That will come in handy.

Barry
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http://www.britanniacreek.net/

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