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Home   Forums   Events Calendar   Sponsors   Support the RRLine   Guestbook   FAQ     Register Active Topics | Active Polls | Resources | Members | Online Users | Live Chat | Avatar Legend | Search | Statistics Photo Album | File Lister | File Library [ Active Members: 15 | Anonymous Members: 0 | Guests: 46 ]  [ Total: 61 ]  [ Newest Member: Speedy ]  All Forums  Fallen Flag Railroad Forums  Erie / Lackawanna Railroad Forum  Need Some DL&W Car Info  New Topic |   Topic Locked |   Printer Friendly Author Topic   slimrails Moderator Premium Member Posted - 04/02/2005 :  10:35:19 AM   Hey, Gang... There was some back and forth over whether or not there was an express boxcar painted in the 'Phoebe Snow' colors and lettered for the Erie-Lackawanna. Well, there was and there's a photo of it in one of my Morning Sun books. Now, while sitting in my car sipping coffee and smoking one of my favorite cheap cigars, I was thumbing through my copy of Erie Railroad Trackside by Bob Collins & Larry DeYoung. In one of the pre-merger photos, there's an Erie diesel pulling a passenger local with a lot of headend cars. One of those cars is a boxcar painted in the 'Phoebe Snow' gray/maroon colors and appears to be a 40' box used as an express boxcar. Anybody know anything about these cars? Russ Take a look at my vintage railroad postcard collection at http://www.railroadpostcards.blogspot.com Country: USA | Posts: 7398 Dutchman Administrator Premium Member Posted - 04/02/2005 :  11:03:16 AM   Russ, I have one Lacawanna book that I will check tonight. Another idea is to give a shout out to Larry De Young. He and I happened to be in The Big Little Railroad Shop in Hillsborough, NJ at the same time last year, and the owner, knowing that my last name was De Young, introduced us. He is very, very personable, and would probably respond. He gave me his card, which I will look for. I think that there was an e-mail address on it. Bruce Modeling the railroads of the Jersey Highlands in HO and the logging railroads of Pennsylvania in HOn3 Country: USA | Posts: 23235 Dutchman Administrator Premium Member Posted - 04/02/2005 :  11:03:16 AM   Russ, I have one Lacawanna book that I will check tonight. Another idea is to give a shout out to Larry De Young. He and I happened to be in The Big Little Railroad Shop in Hillsborough, NJ at the same time last year, and the owner, knowing that my last name was De Young, introduced us. He is very, very personable, and would probably respond. He gave me his card, which I will look for. I think that there was an e-mail address on it. Bruce Modeling the railroads of the Jersey Highlands in HO and the logging railroads of Pennsylvania in HOn3 Country: USA | Posts: 23235 Dutchman Administrator Premium Member Posted - 04/03/2005 :  11:07:23 AM   Russ, I looked through my Lackawanna book last night (Lacawanna Railroad Trackside by Mike Del Vecchio - Morning Sun Books). There were plenty of pictures of the roundtop express cars in the Phoebe Snow gray/maroon colors, but none of the 40' box. I did find one reference to them, which I will include here. "The Lacawanna had a fleet of 80 round roof baggage cars made in the 1920's by three builders: Pullman, American Car & Foundry, and the Pressed Steel Car Co. ... A group of 30 clerestory baggage cars, a group of 11 former U.S. Army troop sleepers, and one baggage car converted from a Boonton Line coach, rounded out the fleet until the delivery of the express boxcars of the 1950's." Just a little more info to mull over. Since the express boxcars were so new when the merger occurred, it wouldn't be hard to imagine them slapping on the E-L logo. Bruce Modeling the railroads of the Jersey Highlands in HO and the logging railroads of Pennsylvania in HOn3 Country: USA | Posts: 23235 Dutchman Administrator Premium Member Posted - 04/03/2005 :  11:07:23 AM   Russ, I looked through my Lackawanna book last night (Lacawanna Railroad Trackside by Mike Del Vecchio - Morning Sun Books). There were plenty of pictures of the roundtop express cars in the Phoebe Snow gray/maroon colors, but none of the 40' box. I did find one reference to them, which I will include here. "The Lacawanna had a fleet of 80 round roof baggage cars made in the 1920's by three builders: Pullman, American Car & Foundry, and the Pressed Steel Car Co. ... A group of 30 clerestory baggage cars, a group of 11 former U.S. Army troop sleepers, and one baggage car converted from a Boonton Line coach, rounded out the fleet until the delivery of the express boxcars of the 1950's." Just a little more info to mull over. Since the express boxcars were so new when the merger occurred, it wouldn't be hard to imagine them slapping on the E-L logo. 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