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Smokestack Jack
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Posted - 10/26/2005 :  10:51:18 PM  Show Profile
Does On30 code 83 or code 70 track match up to HO standard track? I want to use my standard HO turnouts with On30 track. Somewhere I saw a great article on replacing the HO ties with On3 ties on the turnouts. I want to do that, but I was wondering which code On30 track I could use with my turnouts.

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MikeC
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Posted - 10/26/2005 :  11:36:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit MikeC's Homepage
Jack, "code" sizes are standard regardless of scale because they refer to rail height in thousandths. So Code 83 is actually .083" high. In HO scale, that is the equivalent of 132-lb rail. In O scale it is roughly 65-70-lb rail. I'm sure the guys who are into O/On30 will be able to give you even more info related to your questions.



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MikeC
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Posted - 10/26/2005 :  11:36:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit MikeC's Homepage
Jack, "code" sizes are standard regardless of scale because they refer to rail height in thousandths. So Code 83 is actually .083" high. In HO scale, that is the equivalent of 132-lb rail. In O scale it is roughly 65-70-lb rail. I'm sure the guys who are into O/On30 will be able to give you even more info related to your questions.



Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm a busy man. I have a railroad to run.


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Lillyfork
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Posted - 10/27/2005 :  08:55:13 AM  Show Profile  Visit Lillyfork's Homepage
Jack:

You can get code 83 HO gauge turnouts which will of course be compatible with code 83 track. Code 100 turnouts will be a bit large.



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Lillyfork
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Posted - 10/27/2005 :  08:55:13 AM  Show Profile  Visit Lillyfork's Homepage
Jack:

You can get code 83 HO gauge turnouts which will of course be compatible with code 83 track. Code 100 turnouts will be a bit large.



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Rick
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Posted - 10/27/2005 :  08:58:16 AM  Show Profile
Jack, I think this is the post you are referring to about replacing HO ties with On30 ties: http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5727

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Rick
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Posted - 10/27/2005 :  08:58:16 AM  Show Profile
Jack, I think this is the post you are referring to about replacing HO ties with On30 ties: http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5727

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On30fan
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Posted - 10/27/2005 :  12:02:24 PM  Show Profile
Jack,
As the others said the code stays the same for each scale, so HO code 83 turnouts will be just fine eith On30 code 83 track.

The only caution I would have for replacing the ties on the HO turnouts is to make sure your ties are not too thick. If they are thicker than the ties on the track you could end up with a hump in the turnouts.

I don't have any of the peco or ME track so I don't know how thick the ties are on them, but the On3 ties from mt albert that I used are very soft and can be sanded easily.


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Steve
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On30fan
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Posted - 10/27/2005 :  12:02:24 PM  Show Profile
Jack,
As the others said the code stays the same for each scale, so HO code 83 turnouts will be just fine eith On30 code 83 track.

The only caution I would have for replacing the ties on the HO turnouts is to make sure your ties are not too thick. If they are thicker than the ties on the track you could end up with a hump in the turnouts.

I don't have any of the peco or ME track so I don't know how thick the ties are on them, but the On3 ties from mt albert that I used are very soft and can be sanded easily.


Cheers,
Steve
San Juan Lumber Company
Niagara Frontier Traction Company

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Smokestack Jack
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Posted - 10/27/2005 :  9:03:04 PM  Show Profile
OK, maybe I don't understand, or maybe I didn't make myself clear enough. Looking at the end of a piece of code 100 HO scale track, the height of the track from bottom of track flanges to top of railhead is approximately 3/32nds of an inch. What I'm trying to find out is if On30 flextrack, either code 83 or code 70 is the same height as the HO code 100 track. Or, is HO code 100 the same height as On30 code 100?


Edited by - Smokestack Jack on 10/27/2005 9:07:42 PM

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Smokestack Jack
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Posted - 10/27/2005 :  9:03:04 PM  Show Profile
OK, maybe I don't understand, or maybe I didn't make myself clear enough. Looking at the end of a piece of code 100 HO scale track, the height of the track from bottom of track flanges to top of railhead is approximately 3/32nds of an inch. What I'm trying to find out is if On30 flextrack, either code 83 or code 70 is the same height as the HO code 100 track. Or, is HO code 100 the same height as On30 code 100?


Edited by - Smokestack Jack on 10/27/2005 9:07:42 PM

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terry hansley
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Posted - 10/28/2005 :  11:15:23 AM  Show Profile
Jack

The trains will run on anything, as long as the tops of the rails are flush.

The problem is in the thickness of the ties.

Yes the manufactuers have seen fit to use whatever they like.

You must check each for compatability.

In my case I am using Micro code 83 flex with Walthers (Shinohara) turnouts. The turnouts need to be shimmed up.

I am using the same basic concept as in the tutorial but I'm soldering the rail to circuit board ties to maintain the gauge.

Terry H



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terry hansley
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Posted - 10/28/2005 :  11:15:23 AM  Show Profile
Jack

The trains will run on anything, as long as the tops of the rails are flush.

The problem is in the thickness of the ties.

Yes the manufactuers have seen fit to use whatever they like.

You must check each for compatability.

In my case I am using Micro code 83 flex with Walthers (Shinohara) turnouts. The turnouts need to be shimmed up.

I am using the same basic concept as in the tutorial but I'm soldering the rail to circuit board ties to maintain the gauge.

Terry H



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On30fan
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Posted - 10/28/2005 :  12:37:13 PM  Show Profile
Code is the measurement of the rail only in 1000ths of an inch. Code 100 (in all scales) is 100/1000th or .1". Code 83 is .083", and code 70 is .070".

The difference between code 100 and code 83 isn't much (.017) but that is enough for a derailment.

Stick with the same code for the turnouts and flextrack.


Cheers,
Steve
San Juan Lumber Company
Niagara Frontier Traction Company

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On30fan
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Posted - 10/28/2005 :  12:37:13 PM  Show Profile
Code is the measurement of the rail only in 1000ths of an inch. Code 100 (in all scales) is 100/1000th or .1". Code 83 is .083", and code 70 is .070".

The difference between code 100 and code 83 isn't much (.017) but that is enough for a derailment.

Stick with the same code for the turnouts and flextrack.


Cheers,
Steve
San Juan Lumber Company
Niagara Frontier Traction Company

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