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Bernd Posted - 06/07/2019 : 08:35:07 AM
Anybody seen this yet. Neat idea, but a bit pricey.

https://www.handlaidtrack.com/ult-sa?fbclid=IwAR1lJEwP7LXC5jfikUf5aS2jjsNSxJITp9y7Fgy8-kG6uuRK5ZLabMzvTLk

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Philip Posted - 05/12/2020 : 3:12:42 PM
Heck of a review. I may have to get one now.

Philip
kebmo1 Posted - 05/12/2020 : 07:27:48 AM
i bought one a few months ago. i use it on every board and love it. i c-clamped it to my workbench and its always close at hand. its a must have if you build board on board.
NE Brownstone Posted - 05/11/2020 : 9:50:24 PM
I broke down and bought one and the repeater after seeing it a couple of times at different shows. It was so tempting at the Springfield show in Jan because their booth was right across from mine, but I refrained for some dopey reason like 'it cost too much'. I went to visit Ted Shasta one day and he had one and gave me the best review which basically sold me on it.

First off, it is one well built piece of modeling equipment and with the added repeater fixture it becomes an even finer piece of modeling equipment. No cheap plastic or flimsy sheet metal. It is well thought out, easy to use and set while remaining accurate and will last many modelers lifetimes. The bearing housing is a machined chunk of aluminum that is anodized and the frame and table base are powder coated steel. The wheel spins freely and if it were counter-balanced would probalby spin around for a minute or two if you gave it a whirl, but the handle isn't and will swing down to bottom dead center until it stops.

One of the things I like is the non powered feature. I bought it for working with plaster since my Harbor Frieght 10" disk sander, which works well enough also throws dust everywhere even with a shop vac connected. This little rig simply drops the dust straight down. The table pivots up and swings out of the way for easy cleaning.

The protractor is well built and easy to adjust. As with any machine's protractor they aren't absolutely dead-nut on and the markings are for quick reference and you simply keep testing and adjusting until you zero in on angle you need and get a perfect fit. Once you are there you need not worry about it moving. Now, if you need more than a handful of identical pieces the Repeater is a welcome addition and as far as I'm concerned a necessary fixture. It too is well built. It has a spring loaded stop that has a micrometer adjustment that allows you to make super fine adjustments to length and can be locked in once you are happy. After that, sand and go.

Ideally, you should have a way to cut thicker beams (3/16" and above) at a rough angle just to reduce sanding and wear on the disk, but for anything smaller you can cut your pieces at 90 and just let the disk eat it away to the angle you have set.

Yeah, it is a chunk of change, but like Ben said, "the cost of quality is soon forgotten".
I've tried a variety of sanding rigs manual and powered and this thing beats any and all hands down. If you have a decent sized wood trestle to build and want tight fitting angles this little sander will pay for itself simply by reducing the amount of labor required to fine tune each piece by hand.

Of course, if you want to do it the hard way then there's always an emery board. ;)
Philip Posted - 05/05/2020 : 10:25:40 AM
This is all I ever needed. Total $2.72


Philip
DaveInTheHat Posted - 05/04/2020 : 9:18:26 PM
I thought about making one using the petal and front sprocket from a small bicycle.
Frank Palmer Posted - 06/09/2019 : 4:00:28 PM

I'll probably make one sometime down the road when I get into doing some buildings for the quarry line I'm building. Was thinking how it could be made universal by being able to change the sanding disk from 5" to 10" and back again.

Bernd, maybe a non-powered / powered version would be handy.
SAFN SAAP Posted - 06/09/2019 : 04:33:45 AM
I contacted them and they kindly responded in stating that they have no intention of making a 10" at this time. I have the MicroMark combination disc/belt sander, new, and I'm not thrilled with it. I may sell it. I will probably get this 5" and also a Proxxon 10" and be done with it.
Bernd Posted - 06/08/2019 : 8:55:38 PM
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Originally posted by Frank Palmer

Bernd I can't wait to see your version.


I went back and studied the pictures a bit closer. I can see why the price is were it's at. There's quite a bit of precise work that went into making that. Ya, I could make one out of aluminum pieces I've got laying around for cheap, even got some bearings that didn't cost me anything, but it's the hourly pay that gets you.

I'll probably make one sometime down the road when I get into doing some buildings for the quarry line I'm building. Was thinking how it could be made universal by being able to change the sanding disk from 5" to 10" and back again.

Bernd
NVWalt Posted - 06/08/2019 : 7:24:38 PM
I wonder if it really is any better than the Harbor Freight belt/disc sander that cost half or less as much?
Not high dollar but has worked for me for longer than I care to remember.
Frank Palmer Posted - 06/08/2019 : 7:20:16 PM
Bernd I can't wait to see your version. The price is off the chart for a manual sander, oops my bad. It's from Fast Tracks why would it be reasonably priced.
deemery Posted - 06/08/2019 : 3:51:27 PM
Yeah, if I take the metal fence off of my Logan sander, I can do a much larger area. Of course, I have to hold things carefully, since part of the disk wants to pick up the work, while the other part pushes it down. But that's one advantage of hand cranking, you can feel that and control the speed.

dave
SAFN SAAP Posted - 06/08/2019 : 2:09:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by deemery

There's a lot to be said for a hand powered sander. You get much more control, making it useful for styrene as well as wood and plaster. At least with my Logan sander, I can crank it pretty fast for quick sanding, the heavy steel disk can build up a lot of inertia. I do agree with the criticism that 5" isn't quite as useful as a larger disk. One advantage of a 5" disk is that replacement sanding disks are cheap and easy to get.

dave



Aw, I wasn't trying to criticize. That little sander is awesome! I really like it. I have a 10" MicroMark Sander I need to replace. I don't like the shelf method they have because it doesn't hold 90* true. I use the sander to make sure the sides of my cars are flush smooth. 5" sanders cannot do larger cars.

I emailed them and asked if they might do a 10" version, but now that I think of it, that might be counter productive. Why have a 5 if you have 10?

I may get one. It looks and seems to perform just right and thankful that such tools exist.

Levi
deemery Posted - 06/08/2019 : 2:01:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by railman28

I'm curious here; does the round turning sander really do a better job than a "True Sanders" back forth sanding?

Bob



I have both. The crank sander is definitely better for removing more material with as much control as a True Sander. I think it works faster. Neither True Sander nor Logan Framing Sander have a good fence for doing anything other than right angles (but the Framing Sander also has support for 45 and 22 1/2 angles, I think. The fence is kinda clumsy, and I'm not quite sure how accurate it is.)

dave
railman28 Posted - 06/08/2019 : 12:59:41 PM
I'm curious here; does the round turning sander really do a better job than a "True Sanders" back forth sanding?

Bob
deemery Posted - 06/08/2019 : 11:50:42 AM
There's a lot to be said for a hand powered sander. You get much more control, making it useful for styrene as well as wood and plaster. At least with my Logan sander, I can crank it pretty fast for quick sanding, the heavy steel disk can build up a lot of inertia. I do agree with the criticism that 5" isn't quite as useful as a larger disk. One advantage of a 5" disk is that replacement sanding disks are cheap and easy to get.

dave

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