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MinerFortyNiner Posted - 06/02/2012 : 9:29:07 PM
Well, I have learned so much from others on this forum...and from poring over the pages of On30 Annual and the Narrow Gauge and Short Line Gazette. I am striving to take my modeling further and improve my skills. I'll be finally taking the time to build a foreground structure and attempt to make the very most of the opportunity.

Here's a photo of Tom Yorke's Frijole Flats kit:


My coloring will be more muted, and the location will be the scenic Sonoran Desert on my little Estrella & Sonora Grande railroad:


More to come...
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MinerFortyNiner Posted - 06/17/2012 : 4:49:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by dallas_m

Verne --

Have a look at Gordon Ferguson's method for making (nicely uneven) cobblestones using air-dry clay and see if that gives you any ideas. (Think squares instead of rectangles?)

http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=549.msg30151#msg30151

PS -- You can find the Das clay at Michael's, and it's available in a lovely terracotta, which might lend itself nicely to the desired tinting ... and/or mix the gray with terracotta to produce a lighter starting point? I dunno.




Wow...most impressive results! This would actually be easier to pull off simulating saltillo tile because the individual sections would be larger and square in shape, and minor undulations on the surface could be simulated by uneven rolling for the sheet of clay. While I don't think I can fit my structure base in the microwave oven, the big oven in the kitchen could work...need a diversion for the wife...

I would seal the tiles after tinting, and then go over them with real grout or perhaps spackling compound that I would then tint to the grout color once dry.

Thanks, Dallas... I appreciate all the other suggestions as well, they would all produce interesting results.
MinerFortyNiner Posted - 06/17/2012 : 3:38:46 PM
Wow...cool techniques to ponder! I definitely want the texture and realism of making my own tiles one way or the other.
desertdrover Posted - 06/17/2012 : 1:09:13 PM
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Originally posted by dallas_m

Verne --

Have a look at Gordon Ferguson's method for making (nicely uneven) cobblestones using air-dry clay and see if that gives you any ideas. (Think squares instead of rectangles?)

http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=549.msg30151#msg30151

PS -- You can find the Das clay at Michael's, and it's available in a lovely terracotta, which might lend itself nicely to the desired tinting ... and/or mix the gray with terracotta to produce a lighter starting point? I dunno.



Dallas, that's kind of like this one. Scale Crete used to create cobblestone streets.
Neil M Posted - 06/17/2012 : 04:18:04 AM
That is looking great, Verne. I can't wait to see how it progresses
LaRueD Posted - 06/16/2012 : 11:48:54 AM
Verne, ... here are photos of a sidewalk I scribed in foamcore. To get the uneven surface, I randomly "tamped" individual tiles ...







Could you glue your Saltillo image on foamcore, scribe the grout lines, then tamp various tiles, as I did, to get that uneven, organic surface???

Just a thought ...

Delbert
Sulphur Springs Valley, Arizona
dallas_m Posted - 06/16/2012 : 11:42:35 AM
Verne --

Have a look at Gordon Ferguson's method for making (nicely uneven) cobblestones using air-dry clay and see if that gives you any ideas. (Think squares instead of rectangles?)

http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=549.msg30151#msg30151

PS -- You can find the Das clay at Michael's, and it's available in a lovely terracotta, which might lend itself nicely to the desired tinting ... and/or mix the gray with terracotta to produce a lighter starting point? I dunno.
MinerFortyNiner Posted - 06/16/2012 : 10:02:21 AM
Louis, thanks - that is the look I was thinking of...I am considering making individual tiles, then would grout them like you suggested. If I cut grout lines, they will look too even. One of the characteristics of Saltillo tile is their uneven appearance.
desertdrover Posted - 06/16/2012 : 09:28:02 AM
If you print a pattern similar to this, glue it down onto a plastic sheet, then make cut lines into the mortar and re-grout, then over spray with dullcote, will this method work for you?
MinerFortyNiner Posted - 06/16/2012 : 02:45:35 AM
I am sourcing the parts to complete the station, and came across this printed tile flooring from Verlinden:


The size is OK, but I am worried about the colors used, and the fact the simulated texture has no depth...viewers will be looking at the floor at an angle, and this material is a glossy plastic-coated paper with adhesive backing.


I am leaning towards putting this back in my sheet material collection, and making tiles that would simulate Saltillo clay tile. I considered concrete, but would like the warmth of Saltillo tile to go with the columns and Spanish tile roof. Because I have been focused on building a model railroad within my lifetime, and my modeling time is limited, I tend to go with simpler solutions for model building. Hopefully, I will make no such compromises on this build!
MinerFortyNiner Posted - 06/11/2012 : 1:05:12 PM
Kris, it is indeed a great detail...however, I am modeling pre-electricity days in my little town. It would be a great addition for a later era, though!

Frederic, thanks...this is going to be a really fun project, and the input from Delbert and Tim have provided interesting alternatives. The station has tons of potential, like an uncut gemstone. Just hope I don't screw it up!

Tom, thanks...I agree, it's good to see models built and enjoyed. Here are a few other Frijole Flats kits I have already located in my little town of San Lorenzo:


The cantina will get interior details in the future, still working on getting the basic structures on the layout.




The mercantile will also get a full interior with open doors.





As for the station, it will be located a 'few miles' to the east in a scene created for it. I plan to build the variation of the platform that Tim adopted.
tom yorke Posted - 06/11/2012 : 09:47:54 AM
Its nice to see a few of my kits being built. That's why I do them. Both versions are terrific. The original idea for this structure was found in a few photos of a little depot in Cuba. The patio was arranged as I have done mine. Of course, this may not be best for different layouts. Each modeler must determine for themselves what works best.

I look forward to more photos...

Tom Yorke
Frederic Testard Posted - 06/10/2012 : 05:54:50 AM
These buildings are really attractive. I'm looking forward to see the models you'll eventually make from such an inspiration.
hon3_rr Posted - 06/08/2012 : 12:10:04 PM
Love the lamp on the outside of the support column in the proto pic.
LaRueD Posted - 06/08/2012 : 11:44:21 AM
"... de nada, ... buena suerte, amigo ..."



Delbert
Sulphur Springs Valley, Arizona
MinerFortyNiner Posted - 06/08/2012 : 02:00:07 AM
Awesome...Delbert, thanks for the pictures, compadre!

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