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Carrie Creek Posted - 12/17/2011 : 4:59:51 PM
This will be a thread detailing the modifications I did to my B'mann 3 truck shay installing a LOK sound decoder with the 100ohm speaker.
On to the next post,
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Carrie Creek Posted - 05/27/2012 : 1:57:57 PM
I decided to move the rest of the detailing up to my CCLC construction thread as the install is done.
Last detail added is a pivoting joint for the tender fill tube.
Here is the link to the construction thread:
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24068
Carrie Creek Posted - 05/11/2012 : 7:32:17 PM
Finally got brave and soldered up the replacement ladder. The holes in the rear sill are a little wider than the top holes just had to make it harder. Made a jig to hold the sides and cut and fitted the rungs. So, a few pics:

here in the jig top two rungs soldered


removed from the jig


final test fit


solder joints cleaned up ready for paint.


Still need to paint the wood sills
This might finish up the added details... still thinking...
Later,
Carrie Creek Posted - 05/10/2012 : 11:18:05 PM
Got a response back from Bachmann and they said that they do not have them as the manufacturer puts them on. Appearently Bachmann not willing to get them from them, so will need to find some one that sells them if I decide to strip Oops. engine, not me.

Here is a pic of it with the MDC shay; Looks better in this light, white balance was probably off with the flash. Should have placed a piece of white paper behind the other pics.





a closeup of hose detail, will have to get the coils to lay flat when I glue in place. Might move to the other side.
Need to swing by the LHS and pick up some number and letter dry transfers for this one.
Later,
Carrie Creek Posted - 05/06/2012 : 5:12:02 PM
John, thanks for the suggestion. What I don't get is that my MDC 2T shay was painted with the same paint and it does not look blueish sitting along side this one. Maybe with more cure time will darken.

Just in case I sent an e-mail off to Bachmann to see if they have the decals availiable or a source that does.

Later, need to get to bed for a nap before work.
vzjtothalo Posted - 05/06/2012 : 4:17:35 PM
Phil:

If you don't like the Grimy Black finish (yes, it is quite blueish), maybe toning it down with chalks or powders is in order. I do that with Floquil Weathered Black, which is also blueish.
Carrie Creek Posted - 05/06/2012 : 3:05:57 PM
Thanks, Louis, I'll quess I'll leave it as is unless I get fed up with it. I might try, after making a copy of the decal, of placing a piece of masking tape over before trying to strip.

Will get the fine brush out and finish the touchup painting.
desertdrover Posted - 05/06/2012 : 10:51:15 AM
I'd leave well enough alone. However, if you do want to go the re-paint route, try taking a picture of the shay builders plate and print up your own decal of it. IMO
Carrie Creek Posted - 05/06/2012 : 12:56:50 AM
Well, here are some pics of the cab all put together.


with the cab back wall installed

view thru the left side

view thru the right side

an overall pic of the right side of the shay, no engines yet, waiting to be painted

and a view into the cab over the fuel bunker


Still needs some touch ups
Seems that the Grimy Black has turned blueish. Even without the flash there is still a blue cast. Thinking of stripping it off but will I lose the Shay Builder Plate decal on the cab? Can I get some somewhere?
That's it for now, more later...





Carrie Creek Posted - 05/05/2012 : 02:10:56 AM
While letting some paint dry here are some pics of the backhead. I made some injectors and stuck them on the pipes that run down along side the boiler. Some pics of before I painted and some after.

tool boxes, wood crates, another bucket, the push pole with the steel bands painted, cab steps and the brakestand












The paint that is drying is on the details seen in the first pic. I also painted the Tuscan Red on the cab window frames which the back wall shows in the second pic and gave the whole engine a coat of Grimy Black.

More as it happens...
desertdrover Posted - 04/28/2012 : 09:53:44 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Carrie Creek

Louis,
Thanks for the pictures, Will have to study them closely. A quick glance shows a lot of valves that aren't on the B'mann shay backhead.

If you look ...................................
Nice idea of resizing the gauge pic but I don't think the numbers would show in HO scale.

You are right about not seeing the gauge in HO scale. I guess it is best to paint the middle of the screw head white, then just dab a few black dots for the illusion of numbers on the dial.
Carrie Creek Posted - 04/27/2012 : 11:00:43 PM
Louis,
Thanks for the pictures, Will have to study them closely. A quick glance shows a lot of valves that aren't on the B'mann shay backhead.

If you look in the lower left corner of my last posted pic you will see the brown on the rear wall of the cab.
I added a couple of gauges to the brake stand.
I was thinking of leaving the sides of the screw unpainted and paint the face white.
Nice idea of resizing the gauge pic but I don't think the numbers would show in HO scale.
desertdrover Posted - 04/27/2012 : 10:37:51 AM
Here is a gauge from a shay, maybe you could copy it, resize it, and use it over that screw.
Also, maybe of interest to you, here are some shay cab interiors.
desertdrover Posted - 04/27/2012 : 09:35:53 AM
Nice job with the brake stand Phil, and great addition using the generator. That makes a great looking detail to the shay.
And changing the inside cab color was a wise choice.
Carrie Creek Posted - 04/27/2012 : 02:05:49 AM
Well, with the responses I recieved on my colour question I will be repainting the interior of the cab. I think that I will go with more of a dirty wood colour than a green since this is a wood cab.

Made a brake stand that projects out from the corner of the seat/front wall junction. Couldn't go any higher or I wouldn't be able to access the screw.




Here temporary in place. might make the face of the screw the gauge.




I had a Cal-scale Pyle National generator laying around so decided to use it here. Pulled up some pictures of them and found where the steam in line connected at and added the pipe. Made a better exhaust pipe and glued it in place.





When I get the black paint out this will get a coat.

More later,
Carrie Creek Posted - 04/22/2012 : 3:21:51 PM
Thank you, Louis.
If anybody wants to attach the cab be very careful to get the bolt holes lined up and the cab in the right position. It would be best if you screw the cab and boiler down on the frame and then drill.I didn't just held them together on the bench. Had to enlarge the clearence hole in the cab a bit. What happens when you rush.

Talked with my brother last night and I think I'll see if I can move the steps outboard some to clear the U-joint and make them longer, three steps instead of two.

Somehow I have missed placed my rear ladder that goes on the back of the tender. Quess I'll have to make one. As everyone knows it will show up after.

Posted a question in the crew lounge about the colour of the green paint Bachmann used inside of the cab.
Later,

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