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Registration is FREE!  Posting Form Screensize: 640 x 480 800 x 600 1024 x 768 1280 x 1024 UserName: Password: Format Mode: Basic  Help  Prompt  Format: Font Andale Mono Arial Arial Black Book Antiqua Century Gothic Comic Sans MS Courier New Georgia Impact Lucida Console Script MT Bold Stencil Tahoma Times New Roman Trebuchet MS Verdana   Size 1 2 3 4 5 6   Color Black Red Yellow Pink Green Orange Purple Blue Beige Brown Teal Navy Maroon LimeGreen Callouts: Message Icon:                             Smilies [quote][i]Originally posted by Orionvp17[/i] [br]Bruce, We should note that all of the models have to be either scratchbuilt or super-detailed. I described this process last fall in a "Year of the MMR" article in "Scale Rails," the NMRA monthly magazine. I found the process to be no more difficult than any other certificate, but it [i]IS[/i] the certificate that benefits from the most complete documentation possible. One key point that I missed in my article bears repeating before this thread gets the High Green for the Main Line: The judging requirement for the certificate is similar to judging requirements for other certificates— judging needs to be done by personal, close observation by judges appointed by the NMRA National or Region AP Chair. This may include, but is not limited to, individuals with the certificate, MMRs, trained contest judges, division AP personnel and persons appointed by the AP Chair to perform the function. In my case, the models had been properly judged (by my Region AP Chair and his immediate predecessor, both MMRs — talk about pressure! [:-bigeyes2] [:-shake] ) as part of the Scenery certificate; I had not yet completed the Prototype Modeler paperwork. When the paperwork was ready I submitted it to the Region AP chair and the process was completed. This is one of the most interesting certificates in the program; I had a great time completing it and recommend it highly! Pete in Michigan [/quote]    -  HTML is OFF | Forum Code is ON    Insert a File     Check here to include your profile signature. Check here to subscribe to this topic.      T O P I C    R E V I E W Dutchman Posted - 02/08/2009 : 6:50:57 PM This thread is one of a series of threads intended to help RR-L Forum members who are also members of the NMRA and are working within the NMRA’s Achievement Program. This is not a thread to debate the pros and cons of either the NMRA or the Achievement Program. For a full explanation of the purpose of these threads, members should refer to this thread on the forum: http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24676 To me, this is one of the more intriguing of the AP categories. The idea is to recreate a prototype scene in miniature. That scene must contain six models of prototype structures and equipment. There must be four different types of models included in the scene, including rolling stock, railroad structure, caboose or passenger car, and motive power. Finally, at least two of the models must be scratchbuilt, and the overall scene must achieve the Merit Level when evaluated. For more information on the requirements of the “Master Builder – Prototype Models” Certificate, follow this link: http://www.nmra.org/education/achievement/ap_proto.html I believe that we have members of the Forum who have earned this certificate. I ask that they jump in here with a more detailed explanation, and pictures of what they submitted in this category. 7   L A T E S T    R E P L I E S    (Newest First) Orionvp17 Posted - 02/09/2009 : 5:45:49 PM quote: Originally posted by Dutchman Pete, those articles will become 'lost' to future members. They should now be put on the NMRA website IMHO. Maybe you could put a bug in someone's ear. Then we could included links to the articles in these threads. Bruce, the NMRA is already working on this. Stay tuned. Pete in Michigan Dutchman Posted - 02/09/2009 : 08:59:02 AM quote: Originally posted by Orionvp17 Bruce, I did indeed start with a photograph, and since I don't own the copyright to it I'm leery of trying to place it up on the Forum. There's a copy of it in the SR article.... Pete, those articles will become 'lost' to future members. They should now be put on the NMRA website IMHO. Maybe you could put a bug in someone's ear. Then we could included links to the articles in these threads. wvrr Posted - 02/09/2009 : 08:12:13 AM Danny, This is on the NMRA website for prototype models: quote: You may have these models judged separately if you wish, either before or after their inclusion in a Prototype Model scene. You may also use them as some of your qualifying models for other categories, such as Motive Power, Cars, or Structures. None of this will affect, or be affected by, their use in a Prototype Model scene. Chuck Danny Head Posted - 02/09/2009 : 07:53:06 AM Bruce, I am about ready to submit the last paperwork for my structures certificate. My question is: Can a model that was used in the past for structurs, but would now qualify for prototype, be used again? Or once it is used for structures, does it not qualify for prototype? Many of my merit awards were earned on models that were build by matching a prototype photo. Danny Orionvp17 Posted - 02/08/2009 : 8:36:10 PM Bruce, I did indeed start with a photograph, and since I don't own the copyright to it I'm leery of trying to place it up on the Forum. There's a copy of it in the SR article.... Pete in Michigan Dutchman Posted - 02/08/2009 : 7:25:33 PM Pete, Did you start with a photograph of a prototype scene? If so, could you scan/post it here? Orionvp17 Posted - 02/08/2009 : 7:23:47 PM Bruce, We should note that all of the models have to be either scratchbuilt or super-detailed. I described this process last fall in a "Year of the MMR" article in "Scale Rails," the NMRA monthly magazine. I found the process to be no more difficult than any other certificate, but it IS the certificate that benefits from the most complete documentation possible. One key point that I missed in my article bears repeating before this thread gets the High Green for the Main Line: The judging requirement for the certificate is similar to judging requirements for other certificates— judging needs to be done by personal, close observation by judges appointed by the NMRA National or Region AP Chair. This may include, but is not limited to, individuals with the certificate, MMRs, trained contest judges, division AP personnel and persons appointed by the AP Chair to perform the function. In my case, the models had been properly judged (by my Region AP Chair and his immediate predecessor, both MMRs — talk about pressure! ) as part of the Scenery certificate; I had not yet completed the Prototype Modeler paperwork. When the paperwork was ready I submitted it to the Region AP chair and the process was completed. This is one of the most interesting certificates in the program; I had a great time completing it and recommend it highly! Pete in Michigan Railroad Line Forums © 2000-13 Railroad Line Co.
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