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Neil M Posted - 07/03/2008 : 1:25:59 PM
I have been without a model railway for a year and a half and I decided it was high time I got back to active modelling again. However, I work out on road construction sites which have seen me move about every 6 months in the last year and a half, so obviously i wanted a small, portable layout.

Carl Ardent's website (http://carendt.us/) has been a favourite of mine for years so i took a while looking through it for trackplans that i liked and thought i could pull off.

I settled on my own rendition of the track plan used by Daniel Schläfli (his layout can be seen at http://carendt.us/scrapbook/page55a/index.html about a quarter of the way down the page), itself a variation on the Box Street Yard thought up by Jack Trollope (Shortliner on this forum).

I adapted it to fit my scale and came up with a 35cm x 140cm (14" by 4'8" and just over 5 square feet for the metrically challenged ) plan.

Each black or white stripe is 10cm to give it some scale.

I am going to set it in Hoboken, New York (on the New Jersey side), down at the waterfront in the 1930's. The times of prohibition, the mafia and heavy industry here

There was a prototype electric line in this area, the Hoboken Manufacturers Railroad (later renamed the Hoboken Shore Railroad http://hbs.railfan.net/) but I am going down the steam powered freelance route.

I wanted to recreate the atmosphere and look of the computer game Mafia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia:_The_City_of_Lost_Heaven, and while i will be able to do that to a degree it is unlikely i will be able to include many of the key structures from that game due to space constraints. Hoboken is also used as a section of the game, hence why i settled on that place/name

I have built to bench work, legs and sub-roadbed and hope to start work on the roadbed and track today/this weekend. It will be my next challenge project and the host to my last challenge project (an aritec shrimp cutter)

(Bachmann Climax and 36' reefer in picture)

I hope you like my plans. Any suggestions are most welcome. The tracks won't be a perfectly aligned to the front edge of the layout when i build it for real! The runaround stub and transfer table are 30cm long. Enough for a 2 truck geared loco or tank engine and one 40' car. Not ideal, I know, but it fits in the space i have!

Neil
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Neil M Posted - 07/26/2012 : 04:04:07 AM
Hi Pete,
There are four sidings on the layout, the warehouse at the back right with 2 spots; the pier at the front right with 3 spots; the factory at the front with 2 spots (3 if you foul the road crossing a bit), and the front track on the transfer table behind the factory can hold 2 cars but it is out of sight.

If I am running a short loco and have short cars on the layout (most are 36-40') then I can spot one on the tail track of the runaround at the extreme right of the layout and still use the run around but not cars over 32' long.
petey Posted - 07/25/2012 : 09:42:14 AM
Hello Neil,
What fun. Harbor inclusion is a great idea. 0n30, and size of the buildings, really increases the challenge. How many cars can you have on the layout and still be able to move about?

jbvb Posted - 06/15/2012 : 07:07:02 AM
My experience transporting my modules from the US to the EU and back in 2008 was that kiln-dried wood was not a problem, plywood was not a problem. In fact our modules were categorized "furniture", which didn't need any special treatment. But they were quite suspicious of crates with stick wood in the frames, so I hauled them 200 km in a trailer to the nearest kiln. There they were baked and stamped to prove it, whereupon I fetched them back. Purely plywood crates didn't need this.
k27rgs Posted - 06/15/2012 : 05:22:26 AM
Sorry mate...
You all sound the same to us Aussie's
Neil M Posted - 06/15/2012 : 02:19:56 AM
Irish! You take that back!

That is tempting Mario but I have a bit of time and effort in On30 at the moment and I have a loco and a few wagons. If I were to swap back to HO now I would be cursing the lack of all the little detail parts I have sitting for me in Scotland. Maybe I will consider doing an add on module but not right now
k27rgs Posted - 06/15/2012 : 12:32:37 AM
G'day Irish.
Start a NEW add-on module in the meantime .
I've got a bundle of aluminium tubing and joiners for the frame, plus I have a few HO industrial structures and details you can have, to get ya going .

Now there's a plan
Neil M Posted - 06/14/2012 : 11:59:00 PM
Hi Tom , it was nice to meet you and your lad at the Model Expo.

My HO stuff has been packed away for a year now and when I see HO now I think 'doesn't it look tiny!', because I have seen so much O scale down here in Victoria.

This thread is making me want to get back into it but I was thinking the other day, would I be able to ship this layout into Australia? - the frame is pine so would customs want to spray the layout with some stuff to kill any hitch-hikers and in doing so destroy the scenery?
TmOn30 Posted - 06/14/2012 : 04:32:22 AM
Hello Neil I just P.M you to find out what you've been working on and then I find this.
I'll clear my bench and you can put it on there
Shaping up quite good !

Regards Tom.
Neil M Posted - 06/14/2012 : 12:22:56 AM
Unfortunately it is sitting in a cupboard in Scotland, however if I get something permanent sorted out in Australia I will get it sent across. If not then I will be back in the same place as where the layout is now so I can carry on with it

As it is I have been building a few O scale buildings and vehicles for an even smaller On30 layout here but because I am living quite short term here I haven't built anything past a mock up of the layout with a few bits on it to give me an idea of how it will look.
Tyson Rayles Posted - 06/13/2012 : 12:39:36 PM
Neil I was hoping you would be unpacking it by now. Did you bring it with you or is it still in Scotland? Are you thinking about starting a new layout down there?
AVRR-PA Posted - 06/13/2012 : 09:40:02 AM
Hi, Neil-

You really were on the way to creating quite a lovely little layout and it's a real shame that you had to pack it away.

I hope you're able to get back to it soon.

Don
Neil M Posted - 06/13/2012 : 09:30:10 AM
Thanks Kenny, that's very kind of you.
I think if I were to start over again (and had a fraction more space) I would make the track running to the right end of the layout a bit longer and I would make the layout a bit deeper. The background buildings would have been better with a wee bit more space to breathe!

Here are a few photos of the layout, just before I had to pack it away in Scotland and move to Australia, just over a year ago. I meant to post them at the time but didn't get around to it. I do miss this layout! I as just starting to get parts of it to the hustle and bustle I had imagined when I started it.
kennyrach Posted - 06/13/2012 : 07:32:03 AM
Very nice layout and nice little size just what i need for now
jbvb Posted - 03/20/2011 : 11:07:47 AM
Wooden commercial buildings in major US cities generally date from before 1890 or so. Several big cities had major downtown fires in the 1870s and building codes (and insurance premiums) were changed to require new construction to use masonry. Depending on the neighborhood, wood structures that weren't recognized as historic disappeared over the next 50-60 years. I don't recall any in Boston's downtown when I was a kid, but most of the area I frequented had burned in 1872. Newburyport MA (a much smaller place) had it's downtown burned out in 1811; that area was entirely brick thereafter though wood commercial buildings were built later a few blocks away. Of course a lot of them burned in 1934...
Neil M Posted - 03/20/2011 : 07:18:15 AM
Thanks guys, I think I will plan a clapboard building for that plot then.

Walt, your kit is really nice - I'm tempted to do a cut through building, like on my last layout, to show off the interior if I did adapt your kit. I think I want a more complex roof line but there's nothing to stop me using it as a core building

I'm back in Glasgow doing up my flat here so I can rent it out and I hope to be heading south of the equator in early April

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