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OK Hogger
Crew Chief

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Posted - 08/11/2019 :  11:09:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has ANYONE heard any updates on the Athearn/Roundhouse 2-8-0's?

The website says it was announced in 2017 and "due late January".

However, I think since it was announced, Athearn lost the Chinese factory that was making their stuff. (Chinese government closed the factory.)

Thus, I'm wondering if "due late January" was referring to 2018 and the page simply hasn't been updated, or if that's THIS coming January (2020)?

Anyone heard ANYTHING? [:-boggled]

Andre

railman28
Fireman

USA
5667 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2019 :  1:01:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did you Email Athern? If they don't respond then you can assume it not an in process item.

Bob

It's only make-believe
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OK Hogger
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872 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2019 :  2:34:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Email Athearn??

What a novel idea. Who'd a' thought.



I shall attend to that.

Andre
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Tintic Range
New Hire

40 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2019 :  3:46:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Athearn, as far as I am aware, was not affected by the closure of the Affa tech factory, which had nothing to do with the Chinese government. The owner of the company wanted to retire but none of his children wanted to take over operations.

A few months ago during Athearn's last visit to their factory in China they posted a picture of the test track which included an unpainted model of the 2-8-0s so they are at some point in the production process. However, since I placed a preorder in late 2017 I've been watching them push the release date further and further back. Athearn seems to be favoring their modern Genesis line over all other products, which while frustrating, if it keeps them in business, is good in the long run I guess.
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OK Hogger
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872 Posts

Posted - 08/12/2019 :  8:37:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Tintic:

Thanks for the info. That's encouraging. I'm considering purchasing one or two for quick n' easy RTR engines.

The story going around was that the Chinese government put pressure on the owner (was reputed to be some type if environmental infraction) and instead of anteing up and paying the ransom (pay the fine and lay out the cash to come into "compliance"), the owner retired and thus closed the shop. No doubt his children wouldn't want part of such a corrupt mess if they didn't have to.

Andre
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dave1905
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USA
1168 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2019 :  9:45:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit dave1905's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't put much stock in anything Athearn/Roundhouse/Horizon puts out. I've talked with and corresponded with them on several things over the past 8+ years and get a lot of its just around the corner and "we're working on that" and then crickets for years.

Dave Husman

Iron Men and wooden cars
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OK Hogger
Crew Chief

872 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2019 :  12:55:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And, that could be what's happening here with the 2-8-0 as well, Dave.

Ah well, I guess there's no rush on my part. I'm neck-deep in cash outlay right now anyway... so IF released soon, I'd be hard-pressed to allocate the funds for one or two of them.

Andre
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masonamerican
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Sweden
1767 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2020 :  02:52:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For information. The Athearn Roundhouse HO old time 2-8-0 is now finally available:
http://www.athearn.com/Search/Default.aspx?SearchTerm=2-8-0


Håkan
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OK Hogger
Crew Chief

872 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2020 :  10:11:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Terrible timing for me.

I'm right in the middle of some very expensive motorcycle engine work and my hobby funds are committed for now.

Hopefully, I will see where I'm at with the expenses soon, and (again hopefully) there will be some funds left to purchase one.

Andre
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OK Hogger
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872 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2020 :  10:28:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd like to purchase a couple... but again, seeing as my hobby funds are committed at this time, I'll just have to take my chances and wait and see.

I really don't like today's "buy now or forever regret it" business model for our trains.

[:-banghead]

Andre
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deemery
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USA
8497 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2020 :  11:45:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The price for that is a bit more reasonable than previous MDC/Athearn prices. Not sure I'll buy any, my loco stable is pretty full and I'm a long way from doing the engine terminal/roundhouse to store more locos :-)

If someone gets one, I'd be interested in a review of how the sound is.

dave

Modeling 1890s (because the voices in my head told me to)
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OK Hogger
Crew Chief

872 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2020 :  12:36:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Same here Dave: It would be nice to hear from someone that has purchased the sound equipped DCC version. That would be version I would be interested in.

IF I purchase a couple in the next month or so, they would need to be basic paint schemes (no "Bumble Bee/Etc"), box oil lamps with a back up light, and coal burning. The back up lights will be needed for they would be in helper service on Tough Cuss Grade to Piney where there's no handy turning facilities at the summit.

I'm hoping for the best. (That is: The motorcycle engine work not as expensive as it could be along with availability of the Athearn models I would be interested in.) I should know how bad the current motorcycle engine work is going to ding me this week.

Andre
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OK Hogger
Crew Chief

872 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2020 :  8:52:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Okay, it looks as if the motorcycle engine work isn't going to hit me as hard as I expected. SO, I might purchase one of the Athearn 2-8-0's to see how they run and sound. IF I do, and IF it passes muster... then I'll decide whether to pick up a second one.

I really shouldn't make such an expenditure right now. (This summer I'll be going back to work on the layout and installing the hard board for the backdrops, the overhead LED lighting, the fascia/etc... so more spending!) However, it's that "buy now or do without" business model.

We shall see!

Andre
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railman28
Fireman

USA
5667 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2020 :  03:28:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Andre, I'm debating a purchase too. It would have to represent a brand new engine. I really don't need another but it would give me a running breathing one. Right now I just have three Bachmann NT Americans and a couple of Baldwins that are almost done.

Bob

It's only make-believe
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dave1905
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USA
1168 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2020 :  10:03:03 AM  Show Profile  Visit dave1905's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If the current run is the same as the previous runs, they are schmooth running engines. They have bronze axle pickups built into the journals on all the tender wheels and bronze wipers on all the drivers. Excellent pick up. Sound, don't know about that. I bought some of the older 4-4-0's that came with sound and it was horrible. But I think they have changed vendors and that was 5-10 years ago production.

Dave Husman

Iron Men and wooden cars
Visit my website : www.wnbranch.com
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OK Hogger
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Posted - 05/06/2020 :  10:59:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Bob:

Yes, me too: It would need to represent a brand new engine. I'm doing the late 1880s, so the long smoke box and straight stack would be okay. These would be my "hill" engines and the four little Bachmann NT 4-4-0's would have to supply the backbone of my fledgling fleet. (I also have a fifth Bachmann NT 4-4-0, but it's non-sound and it will be a while before it's converted and ready for use. In addition, I have another dozen or so MDC/Arbour/Mantua/AHM engine kits/kitbashes/etc to get modified and assembled and get on line "one of these days".)

As for my immediate options, I'm trying to decide whether to obtain a model that's basic black, or go for something that may reflect a mid-late 1880s purchase. My two options:

http://www.athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=ATH84968

http://www.athearn.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=ATH84925

Any input on the above options from any of you would be appreciated.


Dave:

These new models are listed as being equipped with the Econami Sound decoder by Soundtraxx. Good reviews on same, but not as many features as the Tsunami 2 decoders. (TS2 is what Athearn uses in their current Genesis line.) Got to be better than the plain vanilla "Sound Value" decoders used in the little Bachmann NT 4-4-0's.

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