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Michael Hohn
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USA
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Posted - 06/14/2015 :  10:38:48 AM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Mike Hamer

Hi Michael, I just read through the entire thread. Man, your work is impressive. That long car shop facility is really coming together beautifully. I really love the look of the rolling stock with the huge lettering...all attention grabbers, for sure! I'll have to visit the "early rail forum" more often!



Hi Mike,
Thank you for the kind words. I do let projects get away from me.
Yes, lots going on in the EarlyRail forum. Scratchbuilding, kit bashing etc.

Mike
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Michael Hohn
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USA
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Posted - 06/15/2015 :  10:12:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I completed the basic underframe and floor of my two PRR gons. The brass bars representing the intermediate sills are a good idea for adding weight. Mine were a little long, requiring me to carve out the backs of the end sills. Still, everything has gone together easily. I've only been taking short breaks from family activities to work on the models.



I've cut boards for the sides and weathered them gray. More pictures tomorrow maybe. Time to get back to Stanley Cup finals soon.

Mike
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railman28
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USA
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Posted - 06/17/2015 :  01:39:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The cars are looking good. Are you going to stain the floor gray/driftwood/silver wood too?

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Michael Hohn
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USA
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Posted - 06/17/2015 :  10:09:18 AM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bob,

Thank you. Yes, I will use a weathered gray stain. Honestly, I forgot to do the staining. Too many interruptions.

Mike

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Michael Hohn
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USA
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Posted - 06/17/2015 :  9:01:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've stained the deck with Weather-It. I used as little of this product as possible because it is water-based. I once had a kit deconstruct before my eyes when I weathered it after completing the model, forgetting the effect it would have on white wood glue. This time around I was using canopy glue as sort of an experiment so I was less worried. Still . . .

I've also cut out and weathered the side boards.



I'm using Grandt Line stakes for this model. I'm about half way through the job of shortening them.

Mike
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CavalryTrooper25
Crew Chief

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Posted - 06/18/2015 :  8:57:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike;

Have you ever tried the Micro Mark wood aging solution? I have, and like it. It makes a pretty nice grey effect on raw wood. The more coats of it you apply, the older the wood looks.

Horse

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Michael Hohn
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USA
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Posted - 06/18/2015 :  9:40:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Horse,

No, I haven't. Perhaps I'll give it a try some time. In addition to the Weather-It I've used simple India ink in alchohol and a couple of the Bragdon weathering solutions, which I believe are shoe dye.

Mike


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railman28
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USA
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Posted - 06/19/2015 :  02:36:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike, I've used Weather it but I find A&I just as effective. I use a light and dark mix of black and also a brown stain so that i can get a lot of variations in color.

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Michael Hohn
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USA
6113 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2015 :  09:59:58 AM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Made a little progress on the sides to my PRR GE gons:



Alternative ways of doing this: notch ends of the floor for the stakes, install stakes and then sides; or glue stakes to sides, notch floor at the right spots, and glue on sides with stakes. The second approach was used in instructions for two Trout Creek Engineering gondola kits I built years back. It worked well and I decided to go that route.

The notches in floor boards might look a little misaligned but that's just perspective.

Mike

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CavalryTrooper25
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Posted - 06/20/2015 :  11:25:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike;

Looking good!

Can't wait to see the finished product!

Horse

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railman28
Fireman

USA
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Posted - 06/21/2015 :  11:32:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good Job on the notching Mike. I tried doing it your way years ago with a styrene. I wasn't happy with the result.
Probably, I could do better today but I'm using wood again now too.

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Michael Hohn
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USA
6113 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2015 :  2:20:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by railman28

Good Job on the notching Mike. I tried doing it your way years ago with a styrene. I wasn't happy with the result.
Probably, I could do better today but I'm using wood again now too.



Bob,

Thank you. I think if I were working with styrene I might try a different approach. I can picture notching even before gluing the floor onto the frame. When adding the stake/pocket parts a wood jig could be used to keep them vertical and square while gluing. In my mind there's a real operational difference between gluing styrene parts to a wood frame where you generally apply glue to the part and place it in position and joining two pieces of styrene where you hold the two parts like a stake and car frame in position the add glue with a fine brush.

Perhaps just a matter of style.

Mike


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Michael Hohn
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USA
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Posted - 06/21/2015 :  2:28:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by CavalryTrooper25

Mike;
Looking good!
Can't wait to see the finished product!
Horse



Horse,

Thank you for the kind words. I can't wait to finish either. I returned home after a week with shrubs that need to be planted, a lawn that needs to be mowed, bills to pay, and a wet spot in a ceiling, obviously a hole in the roof where the rain gets in and stops my mind from wandering . . .

I guess if I weren't doing two cars I'd be done by now.

Mike
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deemery
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USA
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Posted - 06/21/2015 :  3:06:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What I did was cut the brass rod to fit within the space available in the undercarriage.

dave

Modeling 1890s (because the voices in my head told me to)
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Michael Hohn
Fireman

USA
6113 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2015 :  3:13:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit Michael Hohn's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by deemery

What I did was cut the brass rod to fit within the space available in the undercarriage.

dave



Unfortunately I was away from home, without my usual tools. So I resorted to plan B, which undoubtedly weakened the frame until the floor and side sills were glued on.

Mike


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