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Tim Kerkhoff
Fireman

USA
5869 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2006 :  6:16:54 PM  Show Profile  Send Tim Kerkhoff a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Ok time for an update on some progress on the scenery. Just got back from the NMRA convention and finally recieved the hydrocal.

The pictures are to the left of the main area which has not yet had rock castings applied yet.

This is pretty much it for castings in this area. It will really start coming to life once I paint the rocks and also paint that darn pink/blue foam.

I hope you enjoy.


Overall shot showing some of both areas I am working on.



Rock castings around the portal area, the other void areas will be filled in with brush, talus, weeds, grasses etc.



You can see that I started coloring the rock. In this area it is a grayish brown. I am not use to these colors as most of the rock in Wyoming is more of a brown color. So it will take some trial and error.
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LVRALPH
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5431 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2006 :  7:08:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very inspiring Tim!
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Sodbuster
Fireman

USA
2284 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2006 :  7:57:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Look's good [:-thumbu]there Tim! Now I dont feel like a lone wolf when it comes to mountain peaks rising up to the ceiling. I have had some visitors[:-boggled] ask" Why are your mountains so high? Aren't you going to have trouble fitting trees all the way up there?[:-irked] Funny how some people cant vision the same as the modeler.The more you explain how the more [:-hypnotized]confused they become.
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MikeC
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USA
21584 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2006 :  8:45:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit MikeC's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BobH

I have had some visitors[:-boggled] ask" Why are your mountains so high? Aren't you going to have trouble fitting trees all the way up there?[:-irked]



Just ask 'em if they've ever heard of the "tree line," Bob. [:-devil]


Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm a busy man. I have a railroad to run.


Visit the Central Missouri & Southern
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Tim Kerkhoff
Fireman

USA
5869 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2006 :  10:56:39 AM  Show Profile  Send Tim Kerkhoff a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Bob,

You are exactly right, visitors struggle with seeing your vision. The trick is for them to say, OH my GOSH when your finshed.

This particular part is pretty rugged country with some gorgeous valley scenes and mountains. I am looking forward to trying to pull this together, it is quite different from other scenery I have done.


Mike C. TREE'ssssssssssssssssssssss not very many where I am modeling. Tree line is like Hair line but in reverse insn't it.
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Cigarguy
Fireman

USA
3877 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2006 :  6:36:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Amen to that, Tim. I have driven through that part of the States and your right... there aren't that many trees. Not much of anything 'ceptin rocks. And antelope. And mule deer. And weeds. And more rock...

Mike
D&B Lumber Co.
"The Best Wood You Ever Saw!"
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MarkF
Engineer

USA
9278 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2006 :  12:19:55 AM  Show Profile  Visit MarkF's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Gee Tim, since your so deprived from modeling trees, I'll be happy to give you the opportunity to do some trees for me. I only need um, say, maybe about 10,000!!!![:-eyebrows]

Mark

See my homepage at http://home.comcast.net/~prrndiv/
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kay4pacific
Fireman

USA
4765 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2006 :  9:55:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tim, Just finished looking at all the foam mountain work. What skills you have. I am in awe of what you have done. Just makes me thankful I am modeling the East Coast and am doing waterfront only.Whew!!You are one awesome modeler. Thanks for the education.
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Tim Kerkhoff
Fireman

USA
5869 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2006 :  01:03:16 AM  Show Profile  Send Tim Kerkhoff a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Bill,

Thanks for the nice comments, I have moved back over to the original thread where I started the project. If you are interested in seeing more progress it will be here from now on. http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11835

I don't see adding all the postings to the scenery thread, maybe just the how to's.

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UKGuy
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USA
5432 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2007 :  8:44:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit UKGuy's Homepage  Send UKGuy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I have been asked several times about my trees through the few posts I have made here, I'm kinda trepedacious surrounded by all the great modeling but here goes anyway. (Appologies for the picture quality throughout, I trashed the LCD screen on my camera and now cant access all the settings till I get it fixed)


Step 1. Trunks.
Grab some dowel rods of the diameter required, taper the top third to a point. I use 3 blades to texture the trunk. Two various jigsaw blades (rough cut/wood) and a razor saw. Start with the severest and drag down from the top of the dowel creating grooves(I only do the bottom 2/3's), repeat with the other two blades, this gives a fairly good bark texture.

Step 2. Paint.
1st coat is basic grey auto primer, follow this up with a couple of coats of WS Earth Undercoat (C1229), lastly a wash of A&I to bring out the bark texture.

Step 3. Lower Limbs
Starting from roughly halfway drill a series of holes moving down the trunk, turning 1/4 or 1/3 as you move down. These holes a are where the lower dead/broken limbs will be inserted later.


Step 4. Upper limb structure
Go to WalMart and buy a natural fibre furnace filter($5ish), cut out some irregular stars, 2point, 3 point, 4 point and some odd triangles


the filter is made up of 3-4 layers, separate out these layers for a thinner airyer look


Starting with the largest, skewer these pieces onto the trunk randomly, bringing them down to just above where you drilled the first hole for the lower limbs, decreasing size as you move up. Dont worry if they look untidy we will trim later.


One thing that irks me personally is seeing trees with an obvious spike stiking out the top, nothing screams model(to me) louder than a 50' sharpened 'pencil' sticking out of the top of a pine. I try to hide this the best I can, even on my caspia trees(diff subject) To do this on the furnace trees I simply cut a 1" piece from the filter and stretch it out vertically over the tip of the dowel, again it will be trimmed to shape later.


Step 5. Painting
Dependant on availability I use two methods, before either I wrap the bottom half of the trunk in a paper tube to avoid any overspray on the finished trunk.
Method 1, grab a brown spray bomb (99c Walmart) and spray the blue filter till all brown.
Method 2, Spray the blue filter with redoxide auto primer, hold tree upside down and lightly spray black to underside of limbs, turn tree right way and lightly spray with grey or tan. Lightly respray with red oxide, this gives a good shading effect for those up close and personal trees.

Step 6. Flocking

I like to flock my pines with 2mm static grass to get the needle effect. Spray the outside of the limbs with water/white glue mix and sprinkle on the static grass to the outside 1/2 of the branches, starting at the bottom and working up the tree. Once satisfied I usually invert the tree and give a very light sprinkling to the underside of the limbs

Step 7. Dead branches


Once all else is finished I add in some caspia or Nandine twigs into the predrilled holes to simulate dead/broken limbs lower down.


This is basically just one of my variations on the "Furnace Filter Tree" , making it a good foreground tree. I also have some quicker/easier variations for background trees/ forrests if anyone is interested.

Take care
Karl.A


Edited by - UKGuy on 08/04/2008 3:51:41 PM
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Tim Kerkhoff
Fireman

USA
5869 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2007 :  8:50:25 PM  Show Profile  Send Tim Kerkhoff a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Karl,

Great tutorial, I really appreciate the step by step. I have to agree with you on the sharpen pencil look, even though I know some trees look like that. Very nice work.
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Tabooma County Rwy
Fireman

USA
4195 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2007 :  9:06:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Karl, thanks for the great tutorial, yet another (and great) variation on the furnace filter trees. Well done!
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Dutchman
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USA
23235 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2007 :  11:51:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Karl, thanks for taking the time to give us a detailed 'how-to'!

Bruce

Modeling the railroads of the Jersey Highlands in HO and the logging railroads of Pennsylvania in HOn3
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LynnB
Fireman

Canada
1688 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2007 :  12:59:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the how to every little bit helps me. Have you ever tried using hair spray rather than diluted white glue\water spray /

Modeling the L&M Rocky Mountain Railroad
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13095
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LVRALPH
Fireman

5431 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2007 :  06:32:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Let me just add that Santa brought me two scenery videos. One is by Paul Scoles, and the other is Scott Mason's with Bob Van Gelder. These are outstanding, and I have learned some new tips that I will try out soon.
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