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nberpa
Engine Wiper

USA
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Posted - 07/19/2012 :  4:23:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit nberpa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Modern Day HO scale from Bellefonte, PA to Pleasant Gap, PA.

Let me know what everyone thinks and what I should change and update. Thanks!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nittany-Bald-Eagle-Model-Railroad/120332131441792?ref=hl

Cody


Modelling the modern day Central Pennsylvania "shortline" Nittany and Bald Eagle Railroad
from Bellefonte, PA to Pleasant Gap, PA.

Edited by - nberpa on 12/27/2012 4:40:36 PM

nberpa
Engine Wiper

USA
132 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2012 :  8:01:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit nberpa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Got a new facebook URL: http://www.facebook.com/NBERPA

Cody


Modelling the modern day Central Pennsylvania "shortline" Nittany and Bald Eagle Railroad
from Bellefonte, PA to Pleasant Gap, PA.
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nberpa
Engine Wiper

USA
132 Posts

Posted - 12/27/2012 :  4:39:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit nberpa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
new website and blog! http://nberpa.weebly.com/

Thanks,

Cody


Modelling the modern day Central Pennsylvania "shortline" Nittany and Bald Eagle Railroad
from Bellefonte, PA to Pleasant Gap, PA.
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Mike Hamer
Engineer

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Posted - 12/27/2012 :  6:58:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mike Hamer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Cody. I look forward to following along with your progress. What size room will you be using for the layout. Seeing as it is a shortline, have you considered creating a shelf layout as a possible alternative? Your prototype pics are great! [:-thumbu][:-thumbu]

All the best, Mike Hamer
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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nberpa
Engine Wiper

USA
132 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2012 :  2:54:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit nberpa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Mike,
The layout is located in the 12' x 24' bonus room (2nd story) of the garage. The layout size will be 12' x 13'. It's a U shaped layout. Here's the trackplan and sorry about the chicken scratch.....



Thanks,
Cody

Cody


Modelling the modern day Central Pennsylvania "shortline" Nittany and Bald Eagle Railroad
from Bellefonte, PA to Pleasant Gap, PA.
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Mike Hamer
Engineer

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Posted - 12/28/2012 :  4:40:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mike Hamer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Cody, Looks like you're going to have great operations on the layout...lots of action, yards, industries to switch. Say, it's pretty close in size to the footprint of my B&M layout which is 11'x13'. I'll be following along with great interest! [:-apple][:-apple]

All the best, Mike Hamer
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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AVRR-PA
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USA
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Posted - 12/28/2012 :  6:20:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit AVRR-PA's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'll also be looking for your updates with interest. Best of luck!

Don
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rockrailsnsnow
Section Hand

USA
72 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2012 :  3:08:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Cody,
Having lived in the area ( Boalsburg ) all of my life, I think your track plan certainly captures the essence of the N&BE.
Depending on timeline, perhaps a few more of the short industry spurs might add more operational opportunities. (i.e., Corning, Rutgers, Centre Conc. Hawbakers, Lezzer, the old granary in Lemont)

Of concern is the available space you show in your sketch. If the room is only 12' wide I'm afraid you will not be able to get the 36" min radius you specify. Perhaps 24" to 26" would be possible with a minimum aisle width. For the 36" min radius I think you would need at least a 16' wide space.

Can you offset the two 36" radius "ballons" by sliding (elongating) the right hand loop to say 16' to gain the space for the larger radius without shrinking the aisle too much?

Just an observation and suggestion.

Cheers,
Michael
Boalsburg, PA
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rockrailsnsnow
Section Hand

USA
72 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2012 :  3:15:38 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cody,
Just re-read your initial post and realized the industries I suggested are beyond the area you have chosen to model. Still a nice start for a workable track plan. Perhaps extending...?

Michael
Boalsburg, PA
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nberpa
Engine Wiper

USA
132 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2012 :  4:12:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit nberpa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the ideas and suggestions! The two balloon tracks that you say of actually fit....
maybe an extension for Lemont.... I'd really like to model that part of the Nittany up to Lemont, but space is limited.... I marked on the trackplan in red where I have the sub-roadbed done to. The black lines/arrows indicate where I have moved those tracks to to accomodate them. I'm kind of thinking of an idea like an industrial district called Lemont industrial district..... Do you see any place on the trackplan in Pleasant Gap or Axemann where I might be able to fit a small but entertaining industrial district representing Lemont??



Thanks,

Cody


Modelling the modern day Central Pennsylvania "shortline" Nittany and Bald Eagle Railroad
from Bellefonte, PA to Pleasant Gap, PA.
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nberpa
Engine Wiper

USA
132 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2012 :  6:21:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit nberpa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Michael, now I understand what you mean by my measurements equalling 16'. I got confused and thought that 36" radius meant a 36" loop. Not a 72" loop. Sorry for the confusion.[:-angel]

Cody


Modelling the modern day Central Pennsylvania "shortline" Nittany and Bald Eagle Railroad
from Bellefonte, PA to Pleasant Gap, PA.
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rockrailsnsnow
Section Hand

USA
72 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2013 :  10:42:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Cody,
Your track plan is quite do-able with a smaller radius. I'm assuming you are using between 18" and 24" radius curves...appropriate for a small shortline. The confusion probably comes from the typical curve designation used by Lionel in the past ( such as O-72 indicating a 72" or 6 foot diameter circle) and still used today by most manufacturers with reference to tinplate/hi-rail.

I'm not quite sure of the exact track configuration from your sketch, but any/some/all four possible additions might be Corning, Rutgers-Nease, Centre Concrete and Lezzer Lumber. Now I know none of these are operating present day, but some of the businesses still exist and it would not be a stretch to include them as operating industries. Corning (if it were still in existence) had several track configurations. (Not sure if a wye ever existed, or if the delivery spur was changed so both would be trailing, to be switched from the west side. A passing siding/runaround was installed west past Corning, but before Lezzer Lumber. You can still see the existing tracks and the siding ghosts on Google earth. Lezzer lumber is a simple facing spur with operational possibility of bulkhead lumber cars and boxcar LCL loads in. Rutgers - trailing spur...tank cars in, product/tank cars out. Centre Concrete, facing spur, cement hoppers in, empties out. These three industries are all adjacent and could be clustered on the layout. Lots of switching activity with the four closely spaced industries and 5 sidings.

There is, of course, Hawbaker's large yard with lots of present-day traffic both in and out and the lime plant even with it's reduced rail yard, it is still significant. These two could be a whole layout in themselves.

OK enough rambling, just a few thoughts for you to consider.
Will be looking forward to you posting your progress as the layout progresses. Keep up the good modeling!
Cheers!
Michael

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brownbr
Crew Chief

USA
766 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2013 :  11:45:27 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like the trackplan and agree that it could be done with the smaller radii. With modern equipment I think the larger radii would look better. Consider this:

Your current configuration is in a "U" with balloon tracks at each end. What if you went with an "L" with the balloons at these ends and adding a narrow shelf to complete the "U" and put your town on the shelf? this should give you the space for your 36" radius on the balloon, but you will probably want an access hatch. This configuration should operate as a point to point with a continuous loop option.

Bryan
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nberpa
Engine Wiper

USA
132 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2013 :  5:21:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit nberpa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi guys. Michael, I'm going to try to find space for an industry or two (a couple of the 4 you said of) to represent Lemont. Although, I don't like/care for the smaller radius, I have to settle with it due to the limited space I have.[:-banghead]

Bryan, thanks for your interest and help, but I can't really reconfigure the layout of the layout. The whole frame for the layout is built and I'm in the process of doing track. I do like your idea though.....[:-angel]

I got 24ft. of track laid within the past 2-3 days. I installed feeder wires in that section today and hope to be completely up and running for testing by 2014. I'll be sure to keep everybody up to date on the progress!

Thanks everyone,

Cody


Modelling the modern day Central Pennsylvania "shortline" Nittany and Bald Eagle Railroad
from Bellefonte, PA to Pleasant Gap, PA.
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