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Rick
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 Posted - 06/28/2012 : 08:40:18 AM
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Gentlemen, we here at RR-Line have always taken swift action in threads where flaming and name calling are involved.
Questioning members intelligence is a perfect example of the type of comment that would elicit action by the mods.
Consider this a warning to please stay on topic and refrain from name calling.
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stefano1
New Hire
Italy
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BNSF Fan
New Hire
47 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2012 : 3:03:25 PM
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Well, my Sergent couplers arrived Friday and are now installed for testing purposes. So far, I like them. I bought a package of the EC87A (assembled) at $7 and a package of the EC87K (kit) at $7.
Although, I have been a model railroader for more than 40 odd years; I don't know what all of the various coupler types are used for. Can someone point me at a link that will make me smarter. Here are my misconceptions:
type "E" coupler is good for most freight cars,
type "SE" double shelf is good for tank cars,
type "F" is a mystery,
type "SF" is a mystery, and
type "H" is a mystery.
Respectfully,
BNSF Fan |
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n6nvr
Engine Wiper
306 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2012 : 8:58:38 PM
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Originally posted by Northcoast Railroad
Not trying to sound stupid, but why do you cut the trip pin of the Kadee's? That is what I run...Do you do it to make them more prototypical looking? The Sargents look nice, but I dont think I would switch now, I still have a bunch of Kadee's for future rolling stock purchases...So, it would not make economic sense right now.
I cut the trip pins off the couplers I use on my SP freight engines and one UP GP40X. If I don't, the snowplows have an unsettling capability to move the trip pin over and uncouple at inconvenient spots on the layout.[:-banghead]
I've also clipped a few freight cars so I can run behind the engine with a snow plow. Several of the engines don't have rear plows so that isn't the problem that the couplers between engines have. |
Don't push me bureaucrat, I've got a bit of hangover |
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cf7
New Hire
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Posted - 07/02/2012 : 4:09:34 PM
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I cut all of my trip pins off of my Kadee Scale couplers.
I see no reason to have something that looks un-prototypical
especially when I have air hoses on most of my freight cars.
And I use a 18 ga. Tapestry Needle to open the knuckles
when I want to un-couple.
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nursemedic97
New Hire
USA
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Posted - 07/03/2012 : 06:30:26 AM
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Originally posted by BNSF Fan
Can someone point me at a link that will make me smarter. Here are my misconceptions:
type "E" coupler is good for most freight cars,
type "SE" double shelf is good for tank cars,
type "F" is a mystery,
type "SF" is a mystery, and
type "H" is a mystery.
Respectfully,
BNSF Fan
According to the all-wise, all-knowing Wikipedia [/sarcasm], the Janney/AAR coupler type "F" is a freight-car "tooth and socket" tightlock coupler and the type "H" is the passenger tightlock coupler. I assume that the "SF" is a type "F" with a shelf to prevent the "tooth" from puncturing tank cars and the like in the event of a "traumatic decoupling."
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runningextra
New Hire
USA
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Posted - 07/04/2012 : 1:26:28 PM
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BNSF Fan - I have been using Sergent's for about a year and half now and will never use anything else.
They operate just like the real deal and being a railroader for the last 14 years realism is what I am after.
Since you have them in your hands now I am sure you can see they are not a rip off. Here are some Sergent's on three of my locos.
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Edited by - runningextra on 07/04/2012 1:29:00 PM |
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BNSF Fan
New Hire
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Posted - 07/04/2012 : 3:49:53 PM
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Scott,
Yes, I like the looks of the Sergents, enough so that I ordered some more.
Respectfully,
BNSF Fan |
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nberpa
Engine Wiper
USA
132 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2012 : 4:03:48 PM
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Originally posted by runningextra
BNSF Fan - I have been using Sergent's for about a year and half now and will never use anything else.
They operate just like the real deal and being a railroader for the last 14 years realism is what I am after.
Since you have them in your hands now I am sure you can see they are not a rip off. Here are some Sergent's on three of my locos.
- Scott
Awesome weathering! |
Cody
Modelling the modern day Central Pennsylvania "shortline" Nittany and Bald Eagle Railroad
from Bellefonte, PA to Pleasant Gap, PA. |
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runningextra
New Hire
USA
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Posted - 07/04/2012 : 10:10:53 PM
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BNSF Fan - Cool, I hope you enjoy the realism as much as I do.
Cody - Thanks buddy |
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sd80mac
New Hire
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Posted - 07/07/2012 : 2:01:54 PM
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Hey Big Al,
I'm going to have to disagree with you here, my man. The whole idea behind the Kadee coupler was to provide "a reliable, realistic, automatic coupler" (http://www.kadee.com/animation/c1.htm). Thus, the trip pins were integrated into the coupler head to facilitate the delayed magnetic uncoupling feature. However, when you cut off the trip pin, you effectively disable this feature, and must use some sort of tool to manually uncouple cars; essentially rendering them no different operationally than Sergents. (Oh, and they ARE much cheaper by 33% when purchased in bulk.) |
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drolsen
New Hire
USA
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Posted - 07/07/2012 : 2:13:41 PM
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Originally posted by sd80mac
However, when you cut off the trip pin, you effectively disable this feature, and must use some sort of tool to manually uncouple cars; essentially rendering them no different operationally than Sergents.
I personally find Sergents much easier to operate than Kadees with the trip pins cut off. I was modifying my Kadees like that before I switched to Sergents because I preferred both the look and the manual uncoupling with a pick when operating, but I think Sergents are a heck of a lot easier to uncouple than Kadees, which want to spring back into the closed position as you're fighting them with a pick. I think it's easy to open the Sergent knuckle to prepare for coupling, and uncoupling is a breeze.
Dave |
Railfanning and Modeling the CSX Old Main Line in the 1990s
http://drolsen.rrpicturearchives.net/
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brakie
Moderator
USA
6945 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2012 : 4:07:22 PM
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Guys,I have always preferred to use KD couplers as intended-hands off coupling and of course the delayed action.
To my mind cutting off the pins and manually uncoupling cars would be a giant step backward as far as switching cars. |
Larry
Engineman
Slate Creek Rail.
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n6nvr
Engine Wiper
306 Posts |
Posted - 07/18/2012 : 10:57:34 PM
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I leave the pins on my freight cars so they can be used in switching operations. I have just about the longest arms of any of the members of my club and I can't reach all the switching locations to use a skewer, knitting needle or magnet wand.
Passenger cars mostly keep them, in most cases they could come off since I don't switch them, but since they aren't broke I don't fix it.
the pins come off on almost all the road engines primarily for appearance and avoid pilot interference. The pins stay on most of the road and yard switch engines since they do switching operations. |
Don't push me bureaucrat, I've got a bit of hangover |
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Ollie
Engine Wiper
Sweden
340 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2012 : 9:07:07 PM
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Originally posted by nberpa
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Originally posted by runningextra
BNSF Fan - I have been using Sergent's for about a year and half now and will never use anything else.
They operate just like the real deal and being a railroader for the last 14 years realism is what I am after.
Since you have them in your hands now I am sure you can see they are not a rip off. Here are some Sergent's on three of my locos.
- Scott
Awesome weathering!
Wow, those MKT units look awesome!!!! |
www.olaviahokas.com/trainstuff |
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Sergent couplers, who is using them
