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anubis51
Crew Chief

Australia
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Posted - 05/25/2012 :  12:09:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all,

I am currently building a 'downunder' version of AMB's Martinsbug No 1 Coal Mine, and I am using the Bachmann On30 Log Skidder as a stationary 'engine to drive the lift cable.




I have removed the sled, and have positioned the 'engine on the drive house concrete floor.







Now, does anyone have any idea how I would add the exterior 'plumbing' to this thing? It will be oil-fired, supplied from an external tank. The water for the boiler will also be fed from a second external tank.

I am not a rivet counter, but I would like to try and make this installation LOOK as though it would be capable of operation.

Any advice would be appreciated...

Thank you,

John



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k27rgs
Fireman

Australia
4260 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2012 :  01:25:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are a few photos of a stand alone boiler with water tank connection.

It maybe a start

http://www.modvid.com.au/html/body_brian_nolan__on30.html





http://www.modvid.com.au/html/body_modvid_photo___dvd_.html
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anubis51
Crew Chief

Australia
932 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2012 :  01:47:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
H Mario,

Brian's work is first class!!

Got a couple of ideas from your link.

Many thanks,


John



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deemery
Fireman

USA
3706 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2012 :  12:48:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm no expert, but in designing my stationary boiler for Wichendon Machine:
1. Fuel in
2. Water in (injectors)
3. steam out
4. smoke out (chimney)
5. Controls
a. steam gauge
b. water sight glass (allows you to see the water level in the boiler)
c. water faucets (alternative to see water level in boiler)
d. pop valves, governor (control steam coming out)
5. Clean-out
a. cinders
b. water (scale)


(Steam line is missing, it fits over the white 'plug' on the steam dome.)

dave
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anubis51
Crew Chief

Australia
932 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2012 :  5:04:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Dave,

Thanks for the info.

A nice idea, housing your 'engine in a brick structure.

Well done.[:-bouncy]


John



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deemery
Fireman

USA
3706 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2012 :  6:35:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This represents a water-tube boiler. A search of Google Images brings up a bunch of examples, most of them -really big-, that I followed. As I understand it, a water-tube boiler works the opposite of a traditional loco boiler, where the fire travels through tubes and the water surrounds them.

Hopefully someone with more expertise than I can expand on this.

dave
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railman28
Fireman

USA
1730 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2012 :  7:40:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The circled area is the injector. The water should feed into the left horizontal arm of the cross. The model you're using is not set up as an oil burner (there is no feed pump or hardware for it) so I can't advise you on that.


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Bob Harris

Edited by - railman28 on 05/25/2012 8:57:04 PM
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anubis51
Crew Chief

Australia
932 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2012 :  7:46:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Bob,

Thank you for that tip. At least I now know where to connect the water inlet.

I will 'fake' the feed pump to somewhere on the LH side of the firebox.(This will be the 'rear' side of the engine, as viewed through the open barn doors)

Many thanks for your input!

John



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HWCRR
Engine Wiper

231 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2012 :  06:48:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Go to Tooties Spring '09 Little Steam Up, on you tube. It is a video of a working vertical, stationary boiler with working engines and drum. There are some great shots of the entire system here. Water lines, steam lines and exhaust.

I do believe this is a wood fired boiler. But, all you have to do is run an appropriate sized piece of tubing from your oil tank to the firebox with a valve for controling the flow of fuel.

The water feed line would run from the tank to a steam driven pump, then to the water injector. The steam line for the pump, would come off the main steam line, which comes out of the dome at the top of the boiler. You would also have a valve on this line.

Check 'er out. Good info here.

Dave (HWCRR)

Edited by - HWCRR on 05/29/2012 07:04:55 AM
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Dutchman
Administrator

USA
23234 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2012 :  07:48:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
John,

Some of the pictures in this old thread might give you some ideas. Unfortunately, many of the pictures have disappeared since the posters did not upload them to the forum.

http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16712&whichpage=5

Bruce

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Steam Nut
Fireman

USA
1277 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2012 :  09:06:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You could also use an electric motor and pump on the floor next to the wall to feed water into the boiler since you have it in doors now. Using an injector in doors would have water on the floor all the time.

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anubis51
Crew Chief

Australia
932 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2012 :  4:58:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, guys!

HWCRR: Thank you for the Tooties info. A very nice little video. Great sound too.

Bruce: Thank you for the link. As you said, some very interesting stuff there.

Bruce II: Thanks for the tip about the electric pump - and the 'leaking' injector.

All points have been assimilated![:-bouncy]


John





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