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Glen Haasdyk
Crew Chief

Canada
801 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2012 :  8:35:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jeff, the Stern and bow structures may be together, but there's about 10 inches of midships that's still in the cards (literally!)

I didn't really like the way my printer did those sheets so today I took the plans to a print shop and ran everything off that had that deck on. It looks much better now. I'll show more pictures when I make some more progress.
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Glen Haasdyk
Crew Chief

Canada
801 Posts

Posted - 04/18/2012 :  11:04:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A bit more progress tonight. I cut the midship section out and glued it to the stern.

The bow is just sitting there loose to give you an idea of how big the ship is. It measures out to just over 20 inches long.
I also added the interior deck to the stern. This is the new floor printout

I'm pretty impressed by the detail in the kit. The switchbox on the wall is a seperate part to give a bit more of a 3-d effect.
As mentioned before I printed off all the green deck parts on a better printer. Here's the comparison:


Next it looks like I'll be working on the holds and midship structure
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AVRR-PA
Fireman

USA
4656 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2012 :  05:58:09 AM  Show Profile  Visit AVRR-PA's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi, Glen --

This is a really interesting thread. I'm going to have to try one of these paper models. You're doing a first-class job with this.

Don
Pittsburgh
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Tabooma County Rwy
Fireman

USA
4201 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2012 :  11:29:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glen, I'm really interested in following along with your build. Your earlier effort on the low relief warehouse building prompted me to go to the website and I purchased a few items - concrete bridge, concrete and asphalt pavements, etc. The ship is very interesting and I may buy one of those too, but I want to build up a couple of smaller paper models first, like you did. Keep up the great work and great tutorial!

Al Carter
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jschumaker
Crew Chief

USA
865 Posts

Posted - 04/19/2012 :  11:43:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glen,

A 20" HO scale ship is good size. Looking forward to more photos.

Jeff S.
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Glen Haasdyk
Crew Chief

Canada
801 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2012 :  11:15:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Al, I have considered both the concrete bridge and the streets package but that's alot of printer ink to pave your layout's roads with. I may still consider the bridge though.

Jeff 20" just happens to the the length of my harbour scene so it will be a near prefect fit, that was pretty lucky.

I completed the holds on the ship today. Again it's alot of cutting and building of layers to form the proper shapes.
Here's the the two holds assembled

Here's a close up of the #1 hold, it's built so it angles down from the Bow of the ship


The decks are cut out and fit around the holds. This was a tricky part since they are a tight fit



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Tabooma County Rwy
Fireman

USA
4201 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2012 :  11:39:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Glen Haasdyk

Al, I have considered both the concrete bridge and the streets package but that's alot of printer ink to pave your layout's roads with. I may still consider the bridge though.




Jeff, you are quite right on the amount of printer ink statement. In my case, I am modeling a lot of industrial and city stuff, and will have a lot of pavement, so this would not be the way to go for me.

However, I have presented clinics before on paving roads (asphalt and concrete) and wanted to give this a shot, on a demo board, along with other mediums. It will be interesting to see the comparisons. Because there is so much variation in pavement in the real world, some of this product spaced judiciously among the other pavements might look pretty good. We'll see...

Great progress and tutorial on your ship!

Al Carter
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Harsco
Fireman

USA
1106 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2012 :  3:03:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tabooma County Rwy

quote:
Originally posted by Glen Haasdyk

Al, I have considered both the concrete bridge and the streets package but that's alot of printer ink to pave your layout's roads with. I may still consider the bridge though.




Jeff, you are quite right on the amount of printer ink statement. In my case, I am modeling a lot of industrial and city stuff, and will have a lot of pavement, so this would not be the way to go for me.

However, I have presented clinics before on paving roads (asphalt and concrete) and wanted to give this a shot, on a demo board, along with other mediums. It will be interesting to see the comparisons. Because there is so much variation in pavement in the real world, some of this product spaced judiciously among the other pavements might look pretty good. We'll see...

Great progress and tutorial on your ship!

Al Carter



Guys, I've purchased their streets kit and will be experimenting with two variations to trim printing costs, the first being to print in a lower quality setting since road surfaces tend to be somewhat indistinct, or secondly, print a highest quality master, then make a black and white copy since those are the prevailing shades anyway.

Glen: you mentioned using spray adhesive; how do you manage to contain the overspray? I like it's adhesive power but the darn stuff is hard to control.
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Glen Haasdyk
Crew Chief

Canada
801 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2012 :  3:13:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I spread a couple gargage bags on my workshop floor if it's too cool outside to spray, if the weather is good I have an old sheet of plywood that I cover with newspaper and put the whoe issue on a couple sawhorses to keep it off the dirt.
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Glen Haasdyk
Crew Chief

Canada
801 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2012 :  3:34:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I placed the holds on the ship this afternoon. I had to trim a bit of the deck length to make them fit but better to have too much than too little.

The bow also was glued on at this point, it's starting to look like a ship now.


I did find that there was a joint showing in the bottom of hold #1. But that;s not a big worry, I'm planning on covering that hold and leaving the other open for some visual intrest.

Now on to some detail work on the lower bulkheads.
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Orionvp17
Fireman

USA
2846 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2012 :  3:56:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glen,

I like the path you're on! You're going to have a beauty when you're done.

As far as the joint in the forward hold is concerned, you could cover it up with crates or a couple of appropriate vehicles if you want the hold open. Stevedores working the hold would also camouflage the joint.

Keep going!

Pete
in Michigan
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Chester
Fireman

2413 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2012 :  3:59:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is turning out very nice Glen.

http://modelingin1-87.blogspot.com/
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Tabooma County Rwy
Fireman

USA
4201 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2012 :  11:24:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

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Guys, I've purchased their streets kit and will be experimenting with two variations to trim printing costs, the first being to print in a lower quality setting since road surfaces tend to be somewhat indistinct, or secondly, print a highest quality master, then make a black and white copy since those are the prevailing shades anyway.

Glen: you mentioned using spray adhesive; how do you manage to contain the overspray? I like it's adhesive power but the darn stuff is hard to control.
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Rick, please keep us posted on your experiments with the street materials!

Al Carter
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Glen Haasdyk
Crew Chief

Canada
801 Posts

Posted - 04/23/2012 :  8:46:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I did some of the fiddly detail parts yesterday and today, assembling the life rings and fire hose lockers. First, both the core and cover layers are cut out:

Then the covers layers and glued and wraped around the core:


There are 9 life rings and 3 hose lockers to assemble. I'm only using 1 of each on the front bulkhead but it's better to assemble all of them now. Here's the front bulkhead with the life ring, locker and door attached.


After assembling all of these details it did occur to me that one could use them outside of the ship kit, either on a dock or on another ship like the tugboat I scratchbuilt a couple years ago. You can just run more off on the printer
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Glen Haasdyk
Crew Chief

Canada
801 Posts

Posted - 04/26/2012 :  08:58:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I finished off the holds last night. I first glued the finished bulkhead covers on the bow and stern, then tackled the hold coverings

Each hold gets 4 trusses that span it widthwise. I decided that one of my holds was going to be completly covered and the other was in the process of being uncovered/loaded/unloaded so it will be partly covered.

On the side that is partly uncovered I left one of the trusses in place and pushed the rest to the end

The cover boards go on next. On the completly covered hold I cut them out as a complete block. You score down the middle to create the bend. The edges and the scoremark is colored using a brown marker. For the partly covered hold I cut out 1 course of the cover boards and did the same.

You can cut the rest of the cover boards out seperatly and stack then on the deck or dockside later
Finally this is where the project stands now:

Edited by - Glen Haasdyk on 04/26/2012 09:00:56 AM
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