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petey
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 Posted - 04/05/2012 : 9:25:53 PM
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Hello,
First let me express my appreciation of all the greetings offered by you members. Quite a
welcoming committee.
Going to try this again. I have not been able to reach Bachmann. I received the above engine. It was worked on, and doesn't work. I have pics of the decoder, but that will have to wait. It looks like the one in the new EM-1. It has a 21 pin plug-in. So, maybe it takes a 21 pin sound decoder. Most info indicates this model takes a 8 pin decoder, but the Bach parts schematic shows a 21 pin sound decoder, to plug into the motor decoder.
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desertdrover
Engineer
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Posted - 04/05/2012 : 10:04:20 PM
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I'm not sure what you want to do, do you want to install sound, just install a new decoder or what? Maybe this information is helpfull.
Get yourself the recommend 8-pin to 21-pin adaptor available from dealers, Bachmann ref. 36-559.
The pictured pin-outs diagram may be useful for you, the relevant pins have been highlighted that are used with a standard 8-pin, 2-function decoder.
You can get this adptor from DCC Concepts. http://www.dccconcepts.com/PDF_Downloads/dcc218_adapter.pdf
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 Louis
Pacific Northwest Logging in the East Coast |
Edited by - desertdrover on 04/05/2012 10:22:28 PM |
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desertdrover
Engineer
USA
11333 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2012 : 10:40:43 PM
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Maybe you have this sound decoder in it??????
This is a Bachmann sound decoder made by SoundTraxx I believe.
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Louis
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petey
New Hire
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Posted - 04/05/2012 : 11:07:08 PM
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Hello Louis,
Yes, this is the sound decoder for the EM-1. Just got one. The 2-6-6-2 did not come with a sound decoder. So, I was trying to verify that this model did, in fact, come with a 21 pin motor decoder. Found my answer on the SoundTraxx site under the Bachmann info. It states that: 'Beginning in late 2011....locomotives come equipped with a 21 pin sound decoder...'. Until I determined this, just now, I didn't know which way to go to replace the missing sound decoder in this loco. The only the 21 pin sound decoder I've seen for a US model is the one for the EM-1, so I guess, it will work in the 2-6-6-2.
Can you instruct me on how to safely test the loco's function with leads, so that I don't burn any PCBs in it? |
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richg1998
Engine Wiper
USA
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Posted - 04/08/2012 : 8:59:42 PM
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This was discussed quite a lot some weeks ago in the Bachmann forums where there are some Bachmann reps. I have seen quite a lot on this loco with documents of the loco & tender, plus decoder info. Go look and search the forums for em-1.
http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php
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petey
New Hire
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 5:08:13 PM
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Hello All,
I threw the EM-1 info in here, because I thought that the 2-6-6-2 had the same decoders/boards. It doesn't! As Desert Drover said it has a 21 pin plug, that is modified to 8 pin performance. I attached a Bach H5 2-6-6-2 tender to the loco and it runs, except there is a bind in the transmission; there is no response with the Vandy tender it came with. It would appear that the 21 pin decoder installed in it, is not working.
Probably the smartest thing to do is to sell it for parts. |
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desertdrover
Engineer
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 5:35:14 PM
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One thing you may try also, is to have your locomotive in factory default settings for the sounds to synch. I do remember Bachmann stating this could be a problem once.
If you, or anyone else worked on this locomotive and changed anything, return to the defaults by setting CV 8 to 8. And then try the Vandy tender once again.
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Louis
Pacific Northwest Logging in the East Coast |
Edited by - desertdrover on 04/09/2012 5:37:49 PM |
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richg1998
Engine Wiper
USA
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 11:46:16 AM
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For those who will not look at the Bachmann site, the EM-1 comes with an on board motor decoder, better than the ones Bachmann has been using. A 21 pin connector is ready to accept a SoundTraxx Tsunami SOUND MODULE. It is NOT a decoder. I put that in upper case for a reason. SoundTraxx does not sell the decoder.
If you want to put full version sound decoder, rip out the present set up as a few have done. I saw a couple messages about this in another forum.
You can find Bachmann EM-1 videos on You Tube.
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desertdrover
Engineer
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 2:03:35 PM
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Originally posted by richg1998
For those who will not look at the Bachmann site, the EM-1 comes with an on board motor decoder, better than the ones Bachmann has been using. A 21 pin connector is ready to accept a SoundTraxx Tsunami SOUND MODULE. It is NOT a decoder. I put that in upper case for a reason. SoundTraxx does not sell the decoder.
If you want to put full version sound decoder, rip out the present set up as a few have done. I saw a couple messages about this in another forum.
You can find Bachmann EM-1 videos on You Tube.
Rich
That's all fine, but he Has the Bachmann H-4 although close to the same EM-1. I believe he also knows that the sound unit is a unit by its self that hooks up with the decoders 21 pin pug.
And, it's not that noone wants to look at the Bachmann site either.
He also seen the sound unit I posted that plugs into his Locomotive's decoder.
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Identification of Decoder in Bach H-4
