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CBryars2
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 Posted - 06/04/2012 : 10:37:27 AM
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Bill,
Good point. I am pretty sure it is an optical allusion. Will have to limit rocks in cut for that very reason. Plan on going almost straight down and simulate drill holes then age to show rock dynamited about 30 years before. I will go back and double check to make sure!
Thanks for feedback it is always appreciated.
Cameron |
Cameron \ OD
Denver Golden & Clear Creek Railroad
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CBryars2
Engine Wiper
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2012 : 11:02:43 AM
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Feedback please!
There are some great modelers here on the forum so I was hoping to get some constructive feedback on 4 of my structures. Want to do the Structure AP and need to hone my skills. Here are the photos, sorry for the quality.
A stand-in for the Golden Depot until I can scratch-build one.
Yard Office by Bar Mills
2nd view of Yard Office
Forks Creek Main Bridge
2nd view
Forks Creek Pump-house
Let me know what I over did, what I can improve.
Thanks Cameron |
Cameron \ OD
Denver Golden & Clear Creek Railroad
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jbvb
Fireman
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Posted - 06/05/2012 : 1:04:22 PM
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RR-Line has a set of "support" threads for the various NMRA AP certificates linked in this master thread: http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24676
Your question is more likely to be noticed by structures specialists if you ask it in that support thread.
I'm not an expert or a judge, but from what I've read (and a couple of contest successes I've had), a good write-up of "how you built a model, what's special about it, how the judging criteria apply to it" is important to scoring well. The June NMRA Magazine reprinted my write-up from Detroit in 2007, if you want to know how I approached it. I can't say much just looking at pictures, which is probably why the Structures, Cars and Motive Power certificates require hands-on judging. If you haven't written something up yet, or are planning to explain techniques etc. face-to-face when the judges visit, I suggest you at least draft an outline of the points you want to mention about each building. If you post it here or in the Structure AP thread, I'd be happy to say more. |
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CBryars2
Engine Wiper
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2012 : 4:33:03 PM
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Thanks JVBV
I'll see about posting over there.
Cameron |
Cameron \ OD
Denver Golden & Clear Creek Railroad
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CBryars2
Engine Wiper
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2012 : 2:26:46 PM
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Weathering update
Some friends on HON3Chat gave me some advice on weathering and this is my first attempt to use that advice. Here is a Banta Model Works (Bill is great)storage boxcar kit. Will need to buid several of these. May try a scratch-build of it next. My last efforts seemed heavy handed, I am going back and adjusting these some. This kit I diluted all paints at least 50/50 to use. More like stain than paint. I think it looks much better. Then used Inkahol (india ink and alchol) mixed to weather. Will add soot & rust later.
Front view. Windows a wash of white diluted, sides red oxide diluted. Light Inkahol wash.
3/4 view
Back view.
Flash makes weathering hard to see. I really like how wood shows through. Also roughed wood up with wire brush.
Feedback appreciated.
Cameron |
Cameron \ OD
Denver Golden & Clear Creek Railroad
www.dgccrr.blogspot.com |
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CBryars2
Engine Wiper
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 06/07/2012 : 3:03:12 PM
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Neat building material
Friend recommended Micro-Mark Textured brick and stone sheets. These look really nice. Also MonsterWorks Brick on Basswood. Here are Micro-mark sheets. Tried to show texture but pictures do not do it justice.
Brick
Brick Lintels
Stone
The texture in real life is very nice. Will try these for scratch building and see how they compare to MonsterWorks.
Cameron |
Cameron \ OD
Denver Golden & Clear Creek Railroad
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CBryars2
Engine Wiper
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2012 : 1:29:57 PM
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Sunday Update
Well, as they say "best laid plans". The curve on deck 2 in the middle peninsula had to be redone. Will post pictures later.
The issue was the 2 bridges the creek was needing. I could not get a good straight section to build the Pratt Truss steel bridges. This was corrected by moving the creek to the outside of the creek eliminating the 2 bridges. Checking the Colorado Central book, this is more prototype, only issue is Elk Creek will be seen from the back, not from, this should provide a different prospective then more commonly seen.
Here is the new view, note creek on outside of 180degree turn on left.
This is original.
The change requires adding to mountain, filling old creek and cutting new. All in all about 16' and 2 turn-outs need to be changed.
Also looking at roadbed in Prototype pictures. Seems there is a little raise for roadbed. So will add N scale cork roadbed over black board. This has advantage in that it makes lining up bridges easier.
Thanks Cameron |
Cameron \ OD
Denver Golden & Clear Creek Railroad
www.dgccrr.blogspot.com |
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CBryars2
Engine Wiper
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2012 : 1:52:20 PM
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Golden Update
Golden plan was really bothering me. The more I learned; the more it bothered me. So redesigned Golden to place roundhouse across from Coors, also moved Coal mine to west of town. This is much more in-line with prototype. Any thoughts?
This is the revised.
This is the original:
Thanks Cameron |
Cameron \ OD
Denver Golden & Clear Creek Railroad
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CBryars2
Engine Wiper
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2012 : 1:52:06 PM
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Friday Update
Wanted to post 2 pictures showing what I've been working on during the week. Will post more in Construction forum.
New building under construction called Barkeep's Tavern. Named after my mentor, this is Bar Mills Saulena's Tavern. Nice kit, going for some interior detail. Red line on photo is added so as not to offend someone.
Here is more interior detail. Next step will be adding bar stools, some tables and chairs and patrons. Also have pictures to put in windows.
Thanks Cameron |
Cameron \ OD
Denver Golden & Clear Creek Railroad
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CBryars2
Engine Wiper
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2012 : 5:26:45 PM
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Sunday Progress
Still working on redoing the section of Clear Creek from Beaver Creek to Forks Creek. Cutting the new creek was turning into a real chore, so off to Home Depot to find something better to cut the creek with.
This is a Milwaukee Oscillating tool. Really good reviews and takes cutting accessories from most manufacturers (Bosch in particular). Never used one before so I made sure I could return it. Wow, did it work. Came with a wood blade and it made short work of the blackboard. It can cut up to 3" depth and it cuts flush and gets into tight places. Just what I needed. 5 stars in my book.
Posting 2 pictures to show results on the oscillating tool cutting the creek. This is #1.
Picture 2. Easy to control, let tool do the work and don't force. This is a much better choice than the Dremel, tried it in store and was not as powerful.
After cuts made used Rigid Wrap from Dick Blick Art Supplies to make creek contour. The Rigid Wrap does not seem to be quite as good as Woodland Scenics Plaster Wrap, but is close enough and 1 pack is about 5-6 times more material. Net, much less expensive and I use alot of it.
Here is the creek now on the right of the track going upgrade between Beaver Brook and Elk Creek.
Here is the newly oriented Elks Creek. Bridge is in-progress. Don't have alot of depth for section house and water tower, but should be just enough.
Here is the long section of the reworked creek from Elk Creek to Forks Creek.
All in all, very happy with the change. the orientation is more aligned to prototype and it eliminated 3 non-prototype bridges that were going to cause operational problems. Also began adding the roadbed. Since it is N-scale I allowed a small gap between to make the roadbed fit the track better.
Thanks Cameron |
Cameron \ OD
Denver Golden & Clear Creek Railroad
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CBryars2
Engine Wiper
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2012 : 6:57:09 PM
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Sunday Update - Got alot done!
Got a solid 6 hours in and made some progress on scenery. Want to finish this section so I can use it for the AP Program towards MMR.
The Oscillating saw came to the rescue doing the Elk Creek bridge abutments. The flush cut and being able to precisely control depth was great. Also go my wet mount rock molds in so tried them out.
This is a Central Valley Pratt Truss bridge I kit-bashed to make 2 bridges out of 1 kit. Had to make molds of a few parts to get it to work. Planking added to make walkway. Abutments are castings made from a abutment I had. Had to be shortened. Bridge still needs final paint.
Up close of downgrade abutment, Noch flexible stone retaining used on the far creek bank.
Bridge ready to be removed and creek prep'd for resin and bottom.
Creek prep. Used burnt umber to provide more depth and added Arizona River rock to shallow bank.
Here is the creek under the Elk Creek Bridge. Added Burnt Umber for depth and Arizona River rock to shallow areas. The abutments are washed with rock color, need to add india ink wash to show stones. Noch flexible stone seen in far bank. There is a drop to the right where there will be some rapids.
Here is the creek looking upgrade to Forks Creek. As before Burnt Umber for depth and Arizona Rock on banks.
This is the downgrade creek from Beaver Brook.
Here is Beaver Brook. The Brook has a wooden flue with small bridge where it meets creek. Used craft work to build abutments. Arizona Rock used in brook bed. Use walnut stain as a "creosote" covering.
Got the wet mount molds in, really like them. Here is a shot of 2 molds in-place. Using Woodland Scenics Hydrocal.
Here is the result. On left bottom is Woodland Scenics molded rock hot glued on. Above and to right are wet mount.
Here is my 1st attempt at Hanging Rock, an iconic landscape highlight of the Clear Creek.
All in all a good day. The Arizona Rock still must be brushed off to remove loose pieces. Lots more work on creek before any envirotex will be added.
Thanks Cameron |
Cameron \ OD
Denver Golden & Clear Creek Railroad
www.dgccrr.blogspot.com |
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CBryars2
Engine Wiper
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377 Posts |
Posted - 07/02/2012 : 8:18:46 PM
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Sunday 1-July Update
Not a lot to show this weekend.
This is the second bridge at Elk Creek. Crosses the creek only and as you can see quite small.
Rounding the curve going downgrade towards Beaver Brook. This is one of the places where the creek and track were moved. The old creek is now filled in the mount covered. I really like the texture of the sculpt-a-mold. The covering has a nice rough look which works well as rock similar to Clear Creek Canyon.
Looking downgrade from Beaver Brook. Track has been relaid on cork roadbed. The sculpt-a-mold has been completed and more rocks are the next step.
The creek bed color is really difficult. Only color pictures I can find is with the creek low and it appears fairly greenish. Spring run off will be deeper and faster. Anyone who has ideas I'm happy to hear them. Tried burnt
umber, and several variations.
Also working on fitting new pickups to Brass 2-6-0 and a can motor. Will post more.
Thanks Cameron |
Cameron \ OD
Denver Golden & Clear Creek Railroad
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CBryars2
Engine Wiper
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2012 : 11:29:28 AM
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Taking a little side trip here - Reworking a 2-6-0 mogul I picked up on e-bay.
The unit runs very poorly, has old open-frame motor and the electric pick=ups are like most brass, limited and relying on the tender bolsters to conduct the juice.
Will upgrade in stages, first get running well in DC, then add decoder for DCC. Can't find small enough sound decoder yet, may look at zimo.
Here is the unit with the boiler and tender shells removed. In upper corner you can see can motor from LocoDoc I will be installing.
Close up of tender, here you can see 2 points of electric current, front pin and wire for positive and tender trucks on bolsters for negative. Want to rewire so I have wire connections for both positive and negative from both loco and tender.
Here is tender taken apart to begin adding pick-ups from wheels. New wire for positive added to connect from tender to loco.
Tender trucks are now wired, small gauge flexible wire runs from Phosphor bronze wires to PCB, then to wire where they allow free movement of trucks.
Can motor test fitted to begin install planning. You can see where I had to cut out floor to clear the fly-wheel.
After install having 2 issues, one not getting power to motor and motor mount not holding unit properly.
More to follow.
Thanks Cameron |
Cameron \ OD
Denver Golden & Clear Creek Railroad
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CBryars2
Engine Wiper
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2012 : 12:31:47 PM
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Wednesday July 4th Update
Only had about 4 hours to work on layout so tried to pick specific items to wrap up. Focused on creek color, finishing sculpt-a-mold on mountains, painting rough terrain coat, and completing some roadbed and test fitting turn-outs.
This is downgrade from Beaver Brook looking towards my fictional tunnel (C&S had no tunnels in this district). The sculpt-a-mold work is done. All base coat now painted on. Will continue to add rock castings.
Second bridge at Elks Creek. Added rock and painted in prep for a test pour. Need to add some water effects or chalk to act as both rapids and a dam between sections.
Looking towards Forks Creek. New creek color added and blended in with shallows. shallow areas for rapids created.
Creek bed at main Elks Creek bridge. Recolored creek and added more rock. Once I get abutments painted will add debris and do a test pour.
Rest of time spent testing turn-outs and completing roadbed. Hopefully this Sunday will see the turn-outs installed. Once Beaver Brook bridge and wooden flume cover completed I can complete track for this section (Middle Peninsula deck 2). This is a try at my first try on AP for scenery.
Thanks Cameron |
Cameron \ OD
Denver Golden & Clear Creek Railroad
www.dgccrr.blogspot.com |
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CBryars2
Engine Wiper
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2012 : 12:49:30 PM
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Brief update on Selena's (Barkeep's) Tavern.
Main post will be in build forum.
Added Lighting and wainscot to walls. Looking much better.
Here is wainscot added.
Here is lighting and front windows in-place.
Adding the windows helped me see how much would be seen so I could judge just how much detail to add. Hoping this will cound as one of my kit builds for AP. I assume interior detail counts a super-detailing.
Still need bottles, furniture and people, but getting there.
Thanks Cameron |
Cameron \ OD
Denver Golden & Clear Creek Railroad
www.dgccrr.blogspot.com |
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