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Mario Rapinett
Fireman

Australia
5846 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2012 :  7:57:44 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dave. I find many of my photos have a "blueish" tinge on the machines, so be careful trying to match the colour.


http://modvid.com.au/html/body_nz_may_2011_-_workshop.html

I coat my models with a very thin wash of blackish / grey etch paint. Blacken does the same thing.


Not sure if you have seen these machine details

http://modvid.com.au/html/body_lynn_museum_tinwald__nz.html


and of course here is the all time "classic" miniature workshop, which I use for ideas

http://modvid.com.au/html/body_repair_shed.html



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deemery
Fireman

USA
7967 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2012 :  8:40:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mario, thanks for more inspiration (I think :-) I see what you mean about the overall blue-gray tinge. I think I know how to work that, but it'll have to wait for the oils to dry. I worked on a couple more machines tonight, but need to look at the results in daylight (even though, obviously, the layout itself won't be under daylight :-)

dave

Modeling 1890s (because the voices in my head told me to)
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deemery
Fireman

USA
7967 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2012 :  8:43:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Speaking of inspiration, I got a great book yesterday from Nation Builder Books (http://www.nbbooks.com - but this doesn't appear on their website.) It's a brand new reprint they're offering, "Pulleys and Belting," from a 1929 International Correspondence Schools publication. Mostly it's about the math on how to figure out the diameter of pulleys, but it also has good modeling information on how to do right angle and oblique angle belting, etc. The book itself is $8 (USD).

dave

Modeling 1890s (because the voices in my head told me to)
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closetguy
Fireman

USA
1855 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2012 :  9:39:50 PM  Show Profile  Visit closetguy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi All
Check this out
http://books.google.com/books?id=Pk1CAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA17&dq=wheel+lathe&hl=en&sa=X&ei=C4dRT7_RAeGyiQKNqdS0Bg&ved=0CGcQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=wheel%20lathe&f=false
Mike M
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railman28
Fireman

USA
5336 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2012 :  9:51:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dave, The comments made on the concrete pads and the blue shade in the grey is right on. In his book on the Sierra RR's shop Bill didn't see any mention of concrete pads and I didn't notice them in any photos But when I went up to do some more research on their wood shop I noticed that all machines were mounted on concrete. BUT we have no idea when that was done. There was not that much concrete being used in the 19th century in the west. The concrete in the Sierra's shop looks very old, but I think it was added in the 20's or 30's myself, but again, I have no evidence to support my conclusion.

It's only make-believe
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dougcoffey1950
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Canada
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Posted - 03/03/2012 :  08:36:57 AM  Show Profile  Visit dougcoffey1950's Homepage  Send dougcoffey1950 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Dave, regarding that project of yours for the lazy Susan. Go to any local fab shop and get them to plasma cut a thick sheet metal plate for you. They could also use your base to transfer punch holes for the screws. It wouldn't cost much. If you were here I'd burn and punch one for you very quickly.

http://www.dougcoffey.com/html/model_railroad.html
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smason2
Fireman

2966 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2012 :  09:13:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dave,

I'm a little slow to get caught up with this thread (what else is new?), but I'm very impressed with your progress and your extrapolation of the kit.

Scott
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MikeM
Engine Wiper

USA
168 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2012 :  2:16:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try these: http://www.old-engine.com/belts.htm and http://www.old-engine.com/belts2.htm

Also http://www.wkfinetools.com/hUS-mechTools/z_reading/1888-A_treatise_on_belts_and_pulleys/1888-A_treatise_on_belts_and_pulleys.pdf

Edited by - MikeM on 03/03/2012 3:24:41 PM
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deemery
Fireman

USA
7967 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2012 :  2:16:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by closetguy

Hi All
Check this out
http://books.google.com/books?id=Pk1CAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA17&dq=wheel+lathe&hl=en&sa=X&ei=C4dRT7_RAeGyiQKNqdS0Bg&ved=0CGcQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=wheel%20lathe&f=false
Mike M

These are a very close match for several of my machine tools, thanks Much!

dave

Modeling 1890s (because the voices in my head told me to)
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Mike Hamer
Engineer

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Posted - 03/03/2012 :  2:47:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit Mike Hamer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Superb quality work, thus far, Dave. Those details certainly take a great deal of time and your craftmanship shows. Brilliant work! [:-thumbu][:-thumbu]

Mike Hamer
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
http://www.bostonandmaine.blogspot.ca
http://www.craftsmanstructures.blogspot.ca
http://modelrailroadsivisit.blogspot.ca
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deemery
Fireman

USA
7967 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2012 :  4:47:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After we got back from an antique show (keeps Herself happy :-) ), I painted the rest of the machine tools, then took them outside to take this photo in daylight (cloudy day):

I added a new color to the mix, burnt umber (dark red, a cross between boxcar red and rust) and used that around the base of the tools. One thing I've learned is that oil paints will blend together, even when you don't want them to. So I need to let these dry for a while. Then I can go back and add the drybrushed highlights. The problem I had doing the highlights now is the white/off-white blended into the base color, rather than providing a relatively sharp edge. Then when they're thoroughly dry, I'll add weathering powders which will have a big impact, I think.

But I'm really happy with the results, and of course I have to acknowledge the help of my wife in picking the right colors to start with.

dave

Modeling 1890s (because the voices in my head told me to)
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railman28
Fireman

USA
5336 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2012 :  5:25:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They look good Dave.
But they also look too Modern to me. Machine tools reflected the tastes of the day like locomotives did. In the 19th century Green (Pullman) was a popular choice. Others were blue and the Smithsonian had a Ochre Yellow drill press on display.

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deemery
Fireman

USA
7967 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2012 :  5:31:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by railman28

They look good Dave.
But they also look too Modern to me. Machine tools reflected the tastes of the day like locomotives did. In the 19th century Green (Pullman) was a popular choice. Others were blue and the Smithsonian had a Ochre Yellow drill press on display.

Hmmmm..... That could be fun, and not too hard to do! I can just put the appropriate color over top of what I have as a wash.

dave

Modeling 1890s (because the voices in my head told me to)
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railman28
Fireman

USA
5336 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2012 :  5:46:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by deemery

quote:
Originally posted by railman28

They look good Dave.
But they also look too Modern to me. Machine tools reflected the tastes of the day like locomotives did. In the 19th century Green (Pullman) was a popular choice. Others were blue and the Smithsonian had a Ochre Yellow drill press on display.

Hmmmm..... That could be fun, and not too hard to do! I can just put the appropriate color over top of what I have as a wash.

dave



That's how I did it. I'm still thinking about going back and doing the drill press in yellow.

It's only make-believe
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closetguy
Fireman

USA
1855 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2012 :  6:35:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit closetguy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dave
I have no desire to Hi-Jack this build, but remember my coloring?
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=33940
Mike M
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