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kirk
Fireman

Sweden
4927 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2014 :  06:20:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am in the preparation phase of a very large painting of two huge draught horses, and the horse owner spent a couple of hours explaining the basic subleties of harnessing horses... it is a subject for specialists, and the variations unlimited. The stagecoach horses seem very lightly harnessed, probably to avoid chafing in dry and sandy areas.

Troels Kirk
Näsum, Sweden
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masonamerican
Fireman

Sweden
1759 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2014 :  2:13:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That painting will be a treat to see! Will they be painted full-scale?

Ouch! A couple of hours! It feels like we have in this thread only very lightly scratched the surface on this subject.

Anyhow the stagecoach has been moved back into the shop for some slight re-harnessing :-) and hopefully will emerge a little more correct.

Håkan
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kirk
Fireman

Sweden
4927 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2014 :  4:01:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Håkan, the horse painting will be 1:1... about eight by thirteen feet or so.

Looking forward to seeing the adjusted stagecoach team... perhaps it might be possible to gently heat the horses to vary the stance, ears, head angle and tails a little?

Troels Kirk
Näsum, Sweden
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ChrisS
Engine Wiper

192 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2014 :  4:11:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hakan,

Very nice work, as usual. I'm curious about your CM caboose - I don't see that listed on the Silver Crash website. How and where did you find it?


Chris
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masonamerican
Fireman

Sweden
1759 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2014 :  4:23:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That hasn't occurred to me but now that you mention it they all have the same stance[:-banghead]. The horses are plastic so I think it would be possible. For now they have to do as I have painted and glued on all the fiddly reins etc. I have changed the traces and got them more in a straight line see the pictures below. Quite fiddly to do as the fishing thread I'm using doesn't always want to go the way I want it to go .





I have made a note of the new knowledge gained to come of use when I build the next stagecoach.

Håkan
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masonamerican
Fireman

Sweden
1759 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2014 :  4:29:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by ChrisS

Hakan,

Very nice work, as usual. I'm curious about your CM caboose - I don't see that listed on the Silver Crash website. How and where did you find it?


Chris



Thanks Chris,
I did not know that it wasn't on the website. I'm on a email list from SCCW and I received some time ago an email ad for the Caboose to which I made a reservation. It was ready to ship about a couple of weeks ago.

Håkan
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kirk
Fireman

Sweden
4927 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2014 :  4:54:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Håkan, the reins, traces and the rest of the harnesses are usually flat leather straps. I have had quite good results using narrow strips of masking tape (in O scale), painted when in place, for this purpose.

Troels Kirk
Näsum, Sweden
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masonamerican
Fireman

Sweden
1759 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2014 :  5:07:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Troels, The tape was a great tip, I'll try that. The fishing line has been a major improvement compared to the thin copper thread I used before. The copper had to be bent in the right position and it was difficult to get the horse and wagon standing flat together. The fishing line bends even by the weight of the plastic horses so when everything is placed it stands flat.

Håkan
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ChrisS
Engine Wiper

192 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2014 :  8:40:28 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Thanks Chris,
I did not know that it wasn't on the website. I'm on a email list from SCCW and I received some time ago an email ad for the Caboose to which I made a reservation. It was ready to ship about a couple of weeks ago.

Håkan



Thanks! I'll have to look into that.
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Pennman
Fireman

USA
4524 Posts

Posted - 05/26/2014 :  08:19:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice looking caboose and stagecoach, Håkan. I haven't been on here much lately, but today noticed this thread again. Superb work. I've been putting on the finishing touches of a project, so watch your mailbox,

Rich
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masonamerican
Fireman

Sweden
1759 Posts

Posted - 05/26/2014 :  1:27:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Rich, I haven't been very active on the forum myself lately. The outdoors pulls to much but now one is getting a little bored of lawn mowing and such. We also have some hot weather here so its great retreating to the cooler basement.

Thanks I'll keep an eye open for the mailman

Håkan
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railman28
Fireman

USA
5551 Posts

Posted - 05/26/2014 :  2:55:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Håkan,
Just a short note on Harness. The 1900 Sears catalog lists 12 styles of harness. All for single horses doing light duty.

I'm just saying don't stress over them too much. After all, when on the layout this beautiful coach and team will just be extras in the scene featuring the trains. For this reason I wouldn't worry about the horses in the same poses ether. Jordon has only 4 horse molds. At flea markets I'm always on the lookout for others horses to mix in with the Jordons. Also, the stance can be hidden a bit by not lining them up straight or a strategically placed bush or other obstruction to the view.


It's only make-believe
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Donald Ball
New Hire

USA
10 Posts

Posted - 05/26/2014 :  3:33:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit Donald Ball's Homepage  Reply with Quote
With regard to Jordan horses, they actually have eight different horse styles. Some are the same size but in a different pose while others are different sizes (e.g. Clydesdales, draft horses, buggy-sized, etc). You can buy the horses separately directly from Jordan.

Don Ball
Stockton & Copperopolis RR
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Ensign
Fireman

Canada
8727 Posts

Posted - 05/26/2014 :  3:42:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Håkan,I've been away up to our cottage again,and I missed seeing your very beautiful stagecoach, until now.
Fantastic work once again!
I hope the guy riding shotgun, never has to use his rifle on any bandits!

Greg Shinnie

Edited by - Ensign on 05/26/2014 3:44:44 PM
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Carl B
Fireman

USA
3728 Posts

Posted - 05/26/2014 :  9:40:03 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow Håkan!

Outstanding work on the horses and wagon...[:-thumbu]

Color choices are right on!
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