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eTraxx
Fireman
USA
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 Posted - 09/14/2011 : 9:51:26 PM
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| You guys think YOU have problems. Meh. My Lugoff & Camden RR. I mean .. really. Lugoff sits 2 miles from Camden. Hmmmmm. Where to extend .. North, South, East and West. I'm tending toward North. That would get me into North Carolina .. so .. Lugoff, Camden and Northern RR. Kinda like that. |
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MinerFortyNiner
Fireman
USA
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Posted - 09/15/2011 : 01:05:01 AM
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Ed, perhaps there's an interchange point you could reach with your shortline that would connect with another narrow gauge 'empire'...even if it is only on paper?
One cool thing with railroad names, even many prototypes never accomplished their destinations stated in their names...so it can go pretty much wherever you want, and not necessarily where the name indicates. The old Tucson, Cornelia & Gila Bend (the 'Tough Coming and Going Back' railroad serving the copper mines at Ajo, Arizona) never reached Tucson...but it helped place the railroad on the map! I bring this up only because my little Estrella & Sonora Grande may never reach Estrella...instead, an ore tram may take ore from Estrella to the Cielo Incline given the difficult terrain of Burro Canyon and the Sierra Estrella mountains. (Sorry if I am rambling a bit!)
I think this is a really interesting idea...and while my sleepy little Arroyo Verde & Western seems like an isolated piece of such a huge network, I want to find out more when the details are published.
For those of you figuring out maps and routes, here is a simple map I did for my website - it was fun to create, using topographic maps to actually plan a route along the water courses that so often provide railroad access into rugged terrain. Just to jog your thinking:
I created the E&SG, which I have documented well in my thread on this forum, to model a small industrial (copper mining) railroad connecting to a regional shortline. That shortline, the Arroyo Verde & Western, was put in place to allow me to run the bigger locos and equipment as a fun alternative...and to provide potential for growth if a larger layout space materializes one day. My modeled portion (San Lorenzo) is where the two join, and a CONSOL could be a possibility, connecting with several logging roads in northeastern Arizona and the D&RGW at Durango...and perhaps a south-of-the border connection with Duane's Torres y Prietas if he were interested.
The best part of this is the potential for interchange, and the 'stirring of the On30 pot', so to speak...getting those interested to share info. and perhaps interchange with each other.
That raises one question...are we considering 3-foot narrow gauge merging in this to accommodated us On30 rubber-gaugers who run D&RGW / RGS / etc.? Just wondering...
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Edited by - MinerFortyNiner on 09/15/2011 01:35:15 AM |
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elwoodblues
Fireman
Canada
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Posted - 09/15/2011 : 07:14:24 AM
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Originally posted by BBLmber
Hey Larry,just extend yours down to just ficticiously connect to Tom's railroad and he could reach out to connect to Ron's and so forth. There may be other railroads in between that can connect to yours. It can be one hugh railway system.
Just think of the traffic one could have going through your railroad. We could even justify an exchange program just like the HO guys have.
Mark
Interesting thing is I already have a connection to the Pacific coast. I always wanted to model a coastal village and have plans for a future expansion in the family room to model a coastal village. My modified map looks like this.
So Larry maybe our two railroads can operate a car ferry service.
Now to see how Tom fits in all this.
On a separate note I like the Idea of a car exchange program like the HO guys have.
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Ron Newby
General Manager
Clearwater Valley Railway Co.
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BBLmber
Fireman
USA
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Posted - 09/15/2011 : 07:30:16 AM
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This is exactly the kind of interconnection I envisioned. There you go larry your connection has been presented and now all you have to do is plan a car ferry and dock. It will get easier as the map gets filled in and we see who is where and closest too who.
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eTraxx
Fireman
USA
1945 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2011 : 08:00:34 AM
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@Verne - huh. No .. you're right. I didn't think GRANDLY enough .. uhhh .. Lugoff, Camden & Atlantic !!! :D
re: On30 vrs. On3. Think many of us just ignore the 1/8" difference and 'assume' that we are running On3. That does bring up the question though about other narrow gauges such as the 2ft gauges. My assumption is that they would do the same thing that the narrow gauges did when interfacing with standard gauge lines and have a transfer point. My own On30 I had a story that a group owned a 30 in mining railroad in South America and that the mine played out. Rather then sell or abandon the equipment the group brought the equipment back to move aggregates etc. .. of course I can just 'ignore' the gauge differences and continue blithely unaware. :)
I like your map. Think I will work on mine now with yours as an example!
@Ron - during the On30 meet someone stood up and said that they (his modeling group/club?) had already implemented something similar. They had decided to focus on Bachmann On30 cars to keep everything on the same level. They evidently lettered and weathered Bachmann boxcars and then pulled names from a hat to trade during a meet. They had plans for the same thing using Bachmann flats, gons, tank cars etc.
It makes sense to me that once this gets cranked up that I could have decals made up for my line and trade with others. Much easier to trade decals then a gon .. (well .. unless the USPS folds)
@Mark - thinking. Hope is this works (the map thing) that it allows updates. That way if two guys in the same general area post maps then one of them could extend their line over to their neighbor for an interchange. |
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MinerFortyNiner
Fireman
USA
1994 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2011 : 11:03:40 AM
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Ed, right on...Let those East Coast investors think that you're a rival to the Pennsy and New York Central!
I can envision narrow-gauge rail barons puffing their fine cigars in smoke-filled rooms from coast to coast, expanding their empires at this very moment... ;o) |
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David Butler
Crew Chief
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/15/2011 : 11:21:52 AM
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My Cedar Grove Railroad is gonna need a mighty big ferry to get across the pond.
Actually, thinking of cheating and re-naming it to CNGR, just to get hold of those transfers! |
Edited by - David Butler on 09/15/2011 11:22:33 AM |
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MinerFortyNiner
Fireman
USA
1994 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2011 : 6:35:17 PM
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| David, good sir, that's the spirit! Any robber baron worth his bank account would approve! |
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BBLmber
Fireman
USA
4223 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2011 : 6:46:31 PM
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I want to get some of thw decals myself as I have a couple of undec hoppers I want to letter. They will be good to send off line loaded.
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Tommatthews
Fireman
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Posted - 09/15/2011 : 6:47:32 PM
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Ron,
We have Lighthorseman in Edmonton area. I think we could connect Vincent Lake (St. Paul) to Edmonton, and perhaps Calgary to you.
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Neil M
Fireman
Australia
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Posted - 09/16/2011 : 03:43:41 AM
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| This is a great idea. My idea is a shortline in Far North Queensland, Australia so I doubt I can take advantage of it but I can see it could add a lot of interchange interest. |
Built a waterfront HO layout in Ireland http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22161 but now making a start in On30 in Australia |
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David Butler
Crew Chief
United Kingdom
791 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2011 : 07:07:40 AM
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| OK, Looks as if there's lots of interest, so looking back through the thread, I don't see a contact address to order these decals - I'm in for two sets! |
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t.ariel
New Hire
USA
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Posted - 09/16/2011 : 07:31:24 AM
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Any chance of getting this consolidated line to the Isle of Sodor?
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eTraxx
Fireman
USA
1945 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2011 : 07:34:39 AM
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Originally posted by David Butler
OK, Looks as if there's lots of interest, so looking back through the thread, I don't see a contact address to order these decals - I'm in for two sets!
@David. So far, the only 'official' response if from Chris Lane ..
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Originally posted by coachlane62
Hi Guys,
The other Bachmann gentleman is Ray Buteux. This is basically his idea. As mentioned we will have a full write-up of the concept in the next On30 Annual for 2012, which is right around the corner. He makes the three-color decals for the Consolidated and sells them for $30. This allows you to letter 30 cars. Buck-a-car, what a deal! All will be revealed in the issue, but this concept allows you to run foreign/interchange equipment on your line or justify a car and loco that wouldn't normally be seen on your layout by lettering it for the Consolidated. The coolest thing about this, I believe, is that you can place your railroad anywhere in the US/Canada/Mexico and you can see when your line is in relation to the other member lines on the map. That map will be hosted and updated on the On30 Annual website, as will the list of participating railroads. This will appear a few weeks after the issue comes out in late November.
Chris Lane Editor of the On30 Annual
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elwoodblues
Fireman
Canada
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Posted - 09/16/2011 : 09:52:24 AM
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boy, this thread is gaining momentum fast[:-bigeyes]
Ed, the the car exchange has been happening at Allen Littlefield's Mid-Hudson shows that he puts on twice a year. With this "new" Consolidated Rail system justification can be found for the foreign cars found on our roads.
As for a car exchange through the mail, I'm not so big on that idea due to the cost involved in buying the cars and sending in the mail. Postage today is getting very expensive for parcels. However I would be interested in exchanging decals as the cost to send these are quite small.
What I would suggest is sending a lettering diagram with the decals so that the lettering would match the owners equipment. I would be even willing to make and buy decals just for exchanging.
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Ron Newby
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Clearwater Valley Railway Co.
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