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Locoman
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USA
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 Posted - 12/26/2010 : 09:49:06 AM
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Martin, Thank you, Thank you, Thank, you.
It looks really easy. will try it today.
Glad you got the pictures posted before, and very sorry that, your camera craped out. |
Jim
Curmudgeon Rock and Timber Co. Short Line
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28246 |
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milocomarty
Fireman
Netherlands
4927 Posts |
Posted - 12/26/2010 : 11:10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Locoman
Martin, Thank you, Thank you, Thank, you.
It looks really easy. will try it today.
Glad you got the pictures posted before, and very sorry that, your camera craped out.
You're welcome Jim, camera's no problem. Goin for repair tomorrow, things always crap out when you need'm |
Grtz Martin..
http://cardiganbaycoastalrailroad.wordpress.com/ |
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andykins
Fireman
United Kingdom
3867 Posts |
Posted - 12/26/2010 : 11:47:32 AM
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| its almost bizzre that using tin foil to make rocks is almost never used in england, and even then it seams to be just crumpled and pushed onto thick wet plaster, i think if thay had seen this method they may change their tunes :P looks really good |
"Is it really "rivet counting" if it's regarding NBW castings?"
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milocomarty
Fireman
Netherlands
4927 Posts |
Posted - 12/26/2010 : 12:32:14 PM
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Originally posted by andykins
its almost bizzre that using tin foil to make rocks is almost never used in england, and even then it seams to be just crumpled and pushed onto thick wet plaster, i think if thay had seen this method they may change their tunes :P looks really good
Thanks Andy, gonna try something on this next time, takes some time to pick out al this silver ore, maybe I should use a lubricant I also use on my woodworking machines.... |
Grtz Martin..
http://cardiganbaycoastalrailroad.wordpress.com/ |
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andykins
Fireman
United Kingdom
3867 Posts |
Posted - 12/26/2010 : 2:52:08 PM
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| id have thought A PTFE spary would work? |
"Is it really "rivet counting" if it's regarding NBW castings?"
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kirk
Fireman
Sweden
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Posted - 12/26/2010 : 2:58:24 PM
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| I had the problem too... it helps not creasing too deep, and timing when to remove the foil... not too late, and not so early that the plaster lifts with the foil. The rest is best removed with a dental pick. But the result is worth the trouble, and it's a fast method too... |
Troels Kirk
Näsum, Sweden
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milocomarty
Fireman
Netherlands
4927 Posts |
Posted - 12/26/2010 : 3:46:21 PM
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| The result shure is worth the trouble, as my 9 year old niece stated: there's no one the same, every time it's different in shape and outcome and in the meantime she helped me removing the ore. But I think of a wood lubricant in a spraycan to help it release better. Normaly I use paraffine on my machines, it's prefents the woods to stick to the lathe, lotta guys use lubricants in a spraycan, worth a try |
Grtz Martin..
http://cardiganbaycoastalrailroad.wordpress.com/ |
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Neil M
Fireman
Australia
2173 Posts |
Posted - 12/26/2010 : 4:50:58 PM
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I have found that if you leave the foil in the plaster until it is set then you end up having to pick it out in little bits but if you pull the tin-foil off the plaster within 10 minutes of the plaster setting then it comes off in one piece and retains all the detail on the plaster.
I didn't notice any real difference with which side you put the plaster on but i think I put it mainly on the shiny side |
Built a waterfront HO layout in Ireland http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22161 but now making a start in On30 in Australia |
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Frederic Testard
Engineer
France
16438 Posts |
Posted - 12/26/2010 : 5:30:32 PM
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Your work with plaster and aluminium molds is very convincing, Marty, some of the best I've ever seen.
And your windows are not bad either...
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milocomarty
Fireman
Netherlands
4927 Posts |
Posted - 12/26/2010 : 6:52:42 PM
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Originally posted by Neil M
I have found that if you leave the foil in the plaster until it is set then you end up having to pick it out in little bits but if you pull the tin-foil off the plaster within 10 minutes of the plaster setting then it comes off in one piece and retains all the detail on the plaster.
I didn't notice any real difference with which side you put the plaster on but i think I put it mainly on the shiny side
Hi Neil, there's indeed no difference in wich side of the foil you're using I figured out, but most of the time I go for the shiny side to, but the plaster itself thats an different story, Started with this modeling plaster and indeed you can remove the foil in about 10 min. But with the complete layout I have in mind I wanted to try an cheaper alternative so I went for this DIY store regular wallplaster, it takes longer to set and is a bit more britle.
Gonna buy me a can of this woodlubricant tomorrow and let you all know what the results are....mmm maybe I try a simple candle and struck it gentle over the foil, it works on the lathe of my planing machine... |
Grtz Martin..
http://cardiganbaycoastalrailroad.wordpress.com/ |
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milocomarty
Fireman
Netherlands
4927 Posts |
Posted - 12/26/2010 : 6:54:05 PM
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Originally posted by Frederic Testard
Your work with plaster and aluminium molds is very convincing, Marty, some of the best I've ever seen.
And your windows are not bad either...
Thanks Frederic, kind words from an outstanding modeler as you are make me realize I'm on the right track... |
Grtz Martin..
http://cardiganbaycoastalrailroad.wordpress.com/ |
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Geezer
Fireman
USA
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BigLars
Fireman
USA
7358 Posts |
Posted - 12/26/2010 : 8:13:02 PM
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Martin,
Some fine modeling you have going on!.
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Locoman
Fireman
USA
1534 Posts |
Posted - 12/27/2010 : 07:09:48 AM
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| Speaking of spray, has anyone though to cooking spary, like "Pam" I might try that. Also, will there be a problem of paint sticking to the plaster because of the form oil. |
Jim
Curmudgeon Rock and Timber Co. Short Line
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28246 |
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Tommatthews
Fireman
7270 Posts |
Posted - 12/27/2010 : 09:23:38 AM
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| I don't think you need the spray. I believe you need to remove the foil before it hardens. It is all in the timing. MHO .. |
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Marty's wharf, first steps into this scale
