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UKGuy
Fireman
USA
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 Posted - 01/28/2012 : 1:24:37 PM
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Exceptional modeling Bob and quite distinctive with the snow and ice. I really like the atmosphere of the scene.
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sgtbob
Fireman
USA
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Ensign
Fireman
Canada
3857 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2012 : 10:13:15 AM
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Fantastic work as usual Bob,a real cut above the rest! 
So what are you going to do next?
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sgtbob
Fireman
USA
1219 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2012 : 11:57:21 AM
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Greg, Thanks for your nice words, much appreciated. I hope Dallas is not reading this
but I actually enjoy your posts. You keep me on my toes and also give me a chuckle
every now and then.
As with most of my models this next one will be a memory trip for me. It will NOT be a structure
and it does need a bit of a "story".
When I was a kid in the 1930's and 40's, my grandfather lived with us. There was a junk
collector who we called "the Rag Man" because he drove his horse through all the neighborhoods
in my home town calling out "Rags!!....Rags!!" so that you could hear him and go out to the curb
with whatever you wanted to get rid of. He was an early recycling center on wheels.
He collected almost anything, not just rags, but that was his call. Back to my grandfather,
he had a scale hanging in the basement and he collected our daily newspapers and weighed them.
He knew exactly what they were worth to the junk man. When the wagon arrived he would get out
to the curb and barter with the Rag Man for quite a while. The whole pack of papers was
worth pennies and I'm sure that did not matter with the haggling, it was some sort of "social"
thing. A rememberance from my youth.
I've been wanting to do his wagon for some time but what held me up was that I knew that somewhere
I had a horse with his head hanging down that would be perfect but I could not find him. He
turned up yesterday while I was looking for something else. I have a bunch of books on horse drawn vehicles but nothing looks like what I want so I guess I'll have to freelance it all the way. He had a wagon somewhat like a farm wagon but smaller and lighter with only one horse. I will start cutting parts today.
Bob |
If you try to fail, and you succeed, which did you do?
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=30102&whichpage=1
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Ensign
Fireman
Canada
3857 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2012 : 12:30:03 PM
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What a neat story Bob.
It's funny how things like that stay with you in memories like this one all your life.
And how you can remember the details crisp enough, to allow you to build a model of the Rag Man's early recycle wagon.
This will be another trip down memory lane Bob, that I will look forward to watching.
Thanks again for the story.
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BBLmber
Fireman
USA
4314 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2012 : 1:43:35 PM
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Bob, I'll be watching as well.
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dallas_m
Fireman
USA
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Posted - 01/30/2012 : 12:34:38 AM
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Originally posted by sgtbob
I hope Dallas is not reading this ...
Don't worry about me ... I only look at the pictures!
Speaking of wagons, my folks are from New Orleans and Mom tells fond stories of the fruit & vegetable wagons ... watermelon was a favorite on hot days. Grandma "learned to drive" in a horse-n-wagon ... when my grandfather tried to teach her to drive a car, she said "I'll wait until they invent a car that shifts its own gears." He told her she was crazy. Later in life, she was a "hot rod grandmother" in a Chevy Nova ... well, several of them actually, she was a bit of a lead foot and not all of the cars survived. Their driveway was lined with oyster shells ... oops, someone got me going on 'membering stuff! |
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Ray Dunakin
Crew Chief
USA
841 Posts |
Posted - 01/30/2012 : 02:21:45 AM
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Bob, have you searched Shorpy? They have a lot of photos of various wagons. Here's one that has a lot of different wagons in one scene:
http://www.shorpy.com/node/9145?size=_original
Here's another, with a really good side view of a single small wagon. (The building behind it is pretty cool too):
http://www.shorpy.com/node/97?size=_original
Shorpy's a great resource of high resolution, old time photos. I find a lot of good reference material there.
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sgtbob
Fireman
USA
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Dutchman
Administrator
USA
23277 Posts |
Posted - 01/30/2012 : 07:16:11 AM
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Bob, both my wife and I were born in Paterson, NJ in the mid-40's. We can both remember the 'rag man' and his horse drawn wagon. Now we lived on opposite sides of the city, but from our memories of the wagon, I'd bet the same man came into both neighborhoods. His wagon had medium height sides, but the distinctive thing was the string of bells that hung just behind his head on a rope strung between to vertical posts on either side of the bench. You could hear those bells blocks away.
The grocery peddler (fresh fruits and veggies) had an old truck (Model A?) with side curtains that could roll up. the veggies were on a base that slanted up toward the center of the truck bed so you could see all the available goodies.
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Modeling the railroads of the Jersey Highlands in HO and the logging railroads of Pennsylvania in HOn3 |
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bitlerisvj
Crew Chief
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 01/31/2012 : 11:55:58 AM
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Hi SgtBob,
Your little story brings back memories from when I was a kid under 10 years old in the 1950's growing up in Detroit. We had a Milk Man that delivered with a horse drawn Milk Wagon, but your story of the rag man really rings a bell. We had "sheeny men" like that going through the alleys and blowing a horn to let the housewives know they were coming through. They accepted old pots and pans and any kind of metal discards. Yep, these guys were the original recyclers. Funny thing though, whenever I tell my Mother-in-law these stories, she thinks I make them up. She cannot believe we still had horse drawn wagons in the streets of Detroit in the 1950s. I do remember the wagons these guys had and at the time, I thought they were old and ugly. But, now, I wish I could see one to get pictures and measurements to model on.
Thanks for the confirmation that these guys really existed.
Regards, Vic Bitleris
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Originally posted by sgtbob
Greg, Thanks for your nice words, much appreciated. I hope Dallas is not reading this
but I actually enjoy your posts. You keep me on my toes and also give me a chuckle
every now and then.
As with most of my models this next one will be a memory trip for me. It will NOT be a structure
and it does need a bit of a "story".
When I was a kid in the 1930's and 40's, my grandfather lived with us. There was a junk
collector who we called "the Rag Man" because he drove his horse through all the neighborhoods
in my home town calling out "Rags!!....Rags!!" so that you could hear him and go out to the curb
with whatever you wanted to get rid of. He was an early recycling center on wheels.
He collected almost anything, not just rags, but that was his call. Back to my grandfather,
he had a scale hanging in the basement and he collected our daily newspapers and weighed them.
He knew exactly what they were worth to the junk man. When the wagon arrived he would get out
to the curb and barter with the Rag Man for quite a while. The whole pack of papers was
worth pennies and I'm sure that did not matter with the haggling, it was some sort of "social"
thing. A rememberance from my youth.
I've been wanting to do his wagon for some time but what held me up was that I knew that somewhere
I had a horse with his head hanging down that would be perfect but I could not find him. He
turned up yesterday while I was looking for something else. I have a bunch of books on horse drawn vehicles but nothing looks like what I want so I guess I'll have to freelance it all the way. He had a wagon somewhat like a farm wagon but smaller and lighter with only one horse. I will start cutting parts today.
Bob
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sgtbob
Fireman
USA
1219 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2012 : 10:12:05 AM
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Mark, Dallas, Bruce, Vic, Thanks all for your comments. I can verify that there were still
some horse drawn vendors in thrugh the 1940's and early 50's. Some guys never give up!!
Well, I have started on the wagon. It's a funny thing, the comment I get most offen when someone
is looking at one of my model wagons is, "nice model wagon, where did you get the wheels?"
It's like there is no problem that you can model a wagon but I know you can't make the
wheels.[:-banghead]
I do usually make the wheels first to get them out of the way, not because they are hard to
do (they are easy), because they are boring. My wheels are not really accurate to prototype
but the result works for me. I like to make all four wheels at the same time sort of production
line work.
Here are the cutouts for the wheels using .040 styrene sheet.
Bob
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If you try to fail, and you succeed, which did you do?
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=30102&whichpage=1
http://www.freewebs.com/santmod/ |
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sgtbob
Fireman
USA
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sgtbob
Fireman
USA
1219 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2012 : 10:27:27 AM
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I cut those little rim pieces from the pie shapes (more on this later) and cut out two rims
for each wheel from .030 styrene. Next I glue the spokes to one rim and then I will fill
in the rim with those little pieces.
I have sometimes simply left those little pieces off and no one seems to notice. In the
smaller scales I would suggest that you do leave them off and if that bothers you, fill
in the gaps later with putty.
I know the wheel looks a little rough at this point but it will be cleaned up after it becomes
a bit stronger with added parts.
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If you try to fail, and you succeed, which did you do?
http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=30102&whichpage=1
http://www.freewebs.com/santmod/ |
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Ensign
Fireman
Canada
3857 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2012 : 10:43:23 AM
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All of this talk of wagon wheels & pie shapes is making me hungry.
You do remember those chocolate covered treats called Wagon Wheels don't you?
Bob, I am starting to think that you could make anything that I could dream up, out of styrene blindfolded.
This will be wheelie fun to watch!
Greg Shinnie |
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