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Ensign
Fireman
Canada
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 Posted - 04/13/2011 : 11:58:43 AM
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Oh boy! It's another Mallerich most of the walls are there structure being built.And just how is this going to fit into the master plan Dallas?And what kind of shop is this going to be?The bricks look like they kept you busy for awhile, very nice.Poor Miss Millie will be forced to stand on that landing until you get a doorknob on the door and a floor on that second storey.
Now stop mutilating cattle with these so called new friends, and get back to work!
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dallas_m
Fireman
USA
3006 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2011 : 6:31:24 PM
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Originally posted by kirk
Really nice! Must be a wonderful scale to work in...
Troels -- Yes, definitely a nice scale ... and thanks for looking! Both you and Karl (UK Guy) have demonstrated a remarkable ability to do expedient builds AND finish those with amazing touches that make it hard to believe they were built quickly. So, I'm trying to use some of that influence on this side project. Made extensive use of Taskboard (pressed paper) for the base and shell. Laying individual bricks doesn't help with the expediency, but it's a fairly small section and think that sort of thing will offset some of the other "shortcuts" like using a plastic stair kit and oversized windows from an O scale structure, etc. We'll see!
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Originally posted by Ensign
Oh boy! It's another Mallerich most of the walls are there structure being built.And just how is this going to fit into the master plan Dallas?And what kind of shop is this going to be?The bricks look like they kept you busy for awhile, very nice.Poor Miss Millie will be forced to stand on that landing until you get a doorknob on the door and a floor on that second story.
Greg Shinnie
Well, I've made some more progress on Ginger ... still no hair, but her clothing is pretty much set now. So, we should be able to get back to our "story" soon ... and, of course, we're gonna need some background settings! The bricks weren't too bad ... they're ready-made (Pegaus Hobbies #5199 Small Bricks) ... and it only took a few wavy courses at the bottom to get into the groove of things. (Still have to do the mortar, but I have some experience with that now.)
Alrighty ... gotta do some more "work" to earn another round of play-time. Again, gonna try to push things along on this one and avoid too many of those really nutty ideas so it can get done.
PS, Greg -- Vera has finished most of her "plastic surgery" -- hair extended, coat and foot reshaped. She'll get a nose job next time I'm doing putty work on Ginger, then she'll be ready for paint.  |
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hon3_rr
Fireman
USA
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Posted - 04/13/2011 : 6:37:09 PM
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| Looks like we're moving along smartly. Looking forward to seeing what sort of sign you'll put on those bricks as I somehow have the feeling we're in for some sort of treat here. |
--KP
Life is to short to make all of the models I want to. |
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dallas_m
Fireman
USA
3006 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2011 : 02:44:47 AM
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A little more progress here. Finished the basic framing/trim on the upper level, which is Millie's apartment. Next, I'll have to finish up the brickwork (coloring and mortar) and frame out the storefront on the lower level ... |
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Frederic Testard
Engineer
France
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Posted - 04/16/2011 : 3:43:39 PM
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This is nice work, Dallas, as usual, but I must say I feel a bit worried about the stairs. I don't say there are no prototypes for these angled steps because I'm not enough knowledgeable on this question, but the lack of space between them in my opinion is a bit unsatisfactory when I watch the model.
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UKGuy
Fireman
USA
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Posted - 04/16/2011 : 8:38:43 PM
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Nice brickwork Dallas, what do you have planned for 'mortar' ?
Having had my attention now drawn to the stairway I'm concerned about the prototypicality of a huge plastic bottle apparently supporting them, maybe some sort of bracing would better increase the realism, or simply just glue them on....
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MikeFisher
Engine Wiper
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Posted - 04/16/2011 : 8:48:04 PM
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| Frederic, an industrial steel staircase has steps like these. Its wide, so many workers can exit quickly in an emergency. Its more for a factory than a little walk up apartment. I guess Dallas used it for a prop here and will make a wood one later. |
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dallas_m
Fireman
USA
3006 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2011 : 9:56:06 PM
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Frederic -- Thanks! I'm making a LOT of little compromises on this one so that it will be "finished" in just a short time ... compared to a year now on the main project, which is just beginning to take shape. This structure is intended as a background piece for our "story" and, perhaps, a background building on a future layout. One of the compromises is using these metal stairs intended for industrial use. They're a bit heavier than I'd like, but I do like the mix of wood, brick and metal that will result. After reading your note, I went back and had another look at available laser-cut stairs in 1:35 or 1:32 and considered the possibility of scratchbuilding some ... and decided to "improve on the compromise" (hopefully!) and trimmed away the lip on the front of each step as shown. (Top half in original condition, bottom half trimmed here.)
Mike -- Yes & no! You're right, these are industrial stairs and a bit heavier than I'd like as noted ... but I'm going for the mix of materials mentioned. The structure will get a variety of signs, flower boxes and all that ... and is intended to serve as a backdrop for the little characters and their actions, so hopefully it will all play out okay in the end. (Fingers crossed.)
Here's a "before" shot of the wall built up with the Pegasus bricks. Bottom few rows are rather wavy [:-blindfold] ... but they got better as I went up. Started out using styrene strip as spacers, but switched to using paper strips and bits which helped smooth things out a bit. Ideally, the bricks should be sorted out by thickness to allow more accurate layering (if desired).
Did some coloring using diluted Vallejo inks (mostly). Used these colors: black, smokey, brown, sepia, flesh wash and Formula P3 (brand) skin wash. Generally about 1 drop ink to 4 drops wet water, except 1:8 on the black and 1:1 (or maybe 1:2?) on the P3 wash. The effects are fairly subtle, which is what I wanted.
Karl -- This one is especially for you! Can't find a "prototype" for that bottle, but I think it's a "keeper." It'll be the first diorama to include a bottle of Micro-Scale Kristal Kleer in the finished scene.
Mortar -- Liquitex Ceramic Stucco tinted with just a TOUCH of Vallejo black. The Liquitex takes color VERY easily, so what seems like a big batch of mortar will soak up a drop of color and become quite dark very quickly. Best to use a "dab" rather than a drop and work up the color. This was applied using a non-medical (wide mouth) syringe with a little glue-tip extender placed over the tip ... same as shown way, way, way back in this thread when I did the stone foundation for the garage.
The mortar is dry to the touch in an hour or so, but I'll let it dry for a day or two before doing some additional weathering with pastels, etc. BTW, after applying the mortar with the syringe, I smoothed it in with a fingertip ... and the abrasive quality of the ceramic stucco took some of the red coloring off of the bricks. Kind of a nice effect.
Looks like we'll need a little concrete or brick pad at the base of the stairs ...
So, hopefully, all the mixed up bits of wood, brick, metal, concrete and so forth and the various details will all play together nicely ... but, of course, all additional thoughts welcome! PS -- There's a bulge in the bricks on the corner (lower left). That will be concealed by a gate in the fence that runs along the back to hide the edge of the dio! (Whew) |
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Dustymalaymann
Engine Wiper
Malaysia
133 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2011 : 10:56:31 PM
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Hi Dallas, love the build, it is looking great. On the subject of the stairs you had it right originally, there is a standard layout using channel & standard stair treads. The channel is usually 8" x 3" with 2 holes drilled for bolts or rivets at each tread. The tread is manufactured from chequer plate, steel plate with a raised non slip chequer pattern. these treads would have lips on all 4 sides for added strength, the rear lip being bent up to prevent items being kicked through and the two side lips for attachment to the stringers. the front lip is usually about 1" bent down depending on the tread width.
Your brickwork is spot on by the way. Can you tell me where you obtain 'pegasus' bricks.
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dallas_m
Fireman
USA
3006 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2011 : 11:14:53 PM
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Hi Keith --
The stair is still thick enough to suggest a lip (I think) but hopefully looks a bit better. It's definitely a compromise, but I think with painting & weathering it will all come together.
Where to find Pegasus Bricks
I used the #5199 Small Bricks. In 1/35 scale, these measure about 3-1/2 x 9" on the face and about 4-1/2" deep. (For O scale, multiple those dimensions by roughly 1-1/3)
Finding them is pretty easy -- they're all over the web. Search "Pegasus 5199 Small Bricks" and you'll find lots of sources.
The company's web site is: www.PegasusHobbies.com
If you search "bricks" on their site, you'll find four choices: gray or red in small or large size. I don't have any of the large bricks, so no idea about the size there ... |
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Dustymalaymann
Engine Wiper
Malaysia
133 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2011 : 11:27:54 PM
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Hi Dallas, Thanks for the info on pegasus. I didn't mean to critisise your build, it looks realy great and different to the usual wood stairs, more inkeeping with your industrial theme.
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dallas_m
Fireman
USA
3006 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2011 : 11:32:56 PM
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| Thanks Keith -- Actually, I didn't see it as criticism (though that is welcome) ... you mentioned that the lip should be about 1" which was helpful, as the edges of the stairs now scale to about 1" thickness ... originals had a VERY heavy lip. And it still has much more substantial support than needed, etc ... but I can live with that! BTW, I noticed that Pegasus does not ship internationally, but you shouldn't have any trouble locating a dealer or ebay seller who will. |
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dallas_m
Fireman
USA
3006 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2011 : 05:50:34 AM
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Signage underway ... will get some touch-up and additional weathering ... |
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Geezer
Fireman
USA
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TRAINS1941
Fireman
USA
4893 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2011 : 06:59:41 AM
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Dallas,
That is one hell of a nice sign. Great work but the whole project has been great from the start.
Jerry |
Jerry
How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are. |
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Chambers Gas & Oil -- structure build
