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dallas_m
Fireman
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 Posted - 03/20/2011 : 7:39:55 PM
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Originally posted by Ensign
Hi Dallas, I was very surprized to see these new boards on your walls. After all of the work that you have put into these walls to make them look so great!Then only to cover them up, it seems to be like putting curtains over a stained glass window.I could see smaller sections of this treatment being used above a workbench, but not on all of the walls. Sorry!
Thank the maker that you have only used poster tack!
Greg Shinnie
Whew, that was close! Thanks again for the strong opinions that helped me avoid a visual train wreck here. Yup, thank goodness for poster tack, scotch tape, digital cameras and forum buddies -- it's SO nice to work these things out BEFORE they get glued together.
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Originally posted by hokie_tech
I keep waiting for spider webs to show up in the corners with scale spiders in them. Maybe even a scale mouse dead in a scale mouse trap.
How bout some kitty litter to absorb future oil stains? What was used for this during the era you are modeling?
Hmm ... spider webs are tricky, but I've got a set of critters on order that includes a couple mice in it ... might have to keep them alive though, so they can sneak in and eat the cheese out of Mr. Mudgeon's baloney sandwiches. Definitely have to do some work on messing up the floor a bit ... I'm guessing sawdust would have been the clean-up material used for spills.
Thanks again, for the feedback, critiques and encouragement. I'll let it stew for a week or two, while I get back to work on some figures ... but I think we have the "basic" makings of a back wall here. Hooray!  [:-thumbu] |
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dallas_m
Fireman
USA
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Posted - 03/21/2011 : 6:06:01 PM
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So, I was out running errands and stopped by Michaels with a 40% off coupon and leftover birthday gift card in hand ... looking for pastel pencils ... and these caught my eye. Posted the big pix to show the bit about them being water soluble ... and .. check out those muted colors. Nice!
Unlike typical water color pencil sets, these have a lot of grays and browns and deeper tones. Dick Blick also sells all the colors individually (and their price is 42% off):
http://www.dickblick.com/products/derwent-graphitint-pencils/
Really looking forward to trying these, but I gotta bunch of "work" to do [:-weepn] ... guess I'll have to work first and play later! Might actually be a couple weeks before I can get into using these much, but thought I'd post the info to go along with the previous post on the watercolor pencils.  |
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Frederic Testard
Engineer
France
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Posted - 03/22/2011 : 05:50:15 AM
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I think many modellers tend to ignore this kind of weathering tool, Dallas, which is not a good idea since you not only have a good range of colors available, but moreover applying them with a pencil is rather easy and the building of colors can be controlled very precisely.
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dallas_m
Fireman
USA
3014 Posts |
Posted - 03/25/2011 : 8:46:54 PM
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Playing with the computer here ... when I posted the last batch of "test" photos for the back wall over on the FineScale RR forum, there was some criticism that it looked a bit "too arranged" or to much like a "shop window".
While considering those critiques ... I started thinking about how to fix it ... AND ... the OPPOSITE question: How to make it worse! Well, actually, how to make it look more arranged and more like a shop window ... which led to this "official" Sinclair affiliate tool rack and display ...
I've made a dozen or so variations on the computer ... NOTHING is glued in place (and a bunch of the stuff in these shots is "fake" just to add other little bits of color or shapes) ... this is the latest version. Open to your initial thoughts and impressions here ... and always appreciate the input!
PS -- Yesterday I posted something about a scale ruler and then deleted it. Yup, I was all excited about a new STEEL rule in 1/35 scale ... and upon closer inspection found that it had TEN inch marks to the foot. Decimal feet? "Inchimals?" I dunno ... anyway, I'm sorting out a better source for rulers and will post updates on that later. |
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railman28
Fireman
USA
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Posted - 03/25/2011 : 10:14:36 PM
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Dallas,
I think our Moms would love our shops because "everything has it's place and is in it" which gives us the "displayed" look. I think we both know that in real work places we find things not so orderly. As exhibit "A" I offer my own workbench;
Anders does a great job of avoiding the display look. I still trying to figure out how to avoid it too. |
It's Only Make Believe
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dallas_m
Fireman
USA
3014 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2011 : 12:35:38 AM
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Yes, Bob, once I work out the actual arrangement of the fixtures, I'll have to make it look like you or I have worked there for a while making a right good mess of things!
Here's the latest computerized-photo ...
Took that last computerized photo, printed it to roughly the right size and stuck it in place ...
Used the sepia filter to try to get rid of some of the color issues ...
This one introduces some serious perspective problems on the workbench -- photo angle doesn't match original angle of print -- but if you can look past that, it gives an overall idea ... |
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Tyson Rayles
Moderator
USA
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Posted - 03/26/2011 : 08:30:13 AM
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| Yep there is a perspective problem but I'm sure you can work it out Dallas. Other than that everything looks good except that green overhead light. |
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Ensign
Fireman
Canada
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Posted - 03/26/2011 : 11:25:27 AM
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Well,thought I better stop in here too, to see what you are doing now Dallas.I really like the peg board version of the tool rack.You could even outline each tool with a marker, so Mr.Mudgeon will know where to put the tools back in their proper place.And even leave a couple off the rack, to show the outline of the missing tools which he lent to Miss Millie.
The place seems to be filling up fast with all kinds of interesting clutter.Tell us, when you finally get around to building the other walls, are you going to make one of them removable for photo taking? I wish now that I would have done that with my Chamber's parts store.I now find it limiting to take photo's just through the door openings.My darling wife informs me that my time here is up, gotta go!
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railman28
Fireman
USA
1731 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2011 : 9:23:24 PM
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| I like the pegboard behind the tools, the less advertising in these later views. I think the radiator hoses could just hang form a wire or something similar. Each view gets better. |
It's Only Make Believe
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BigLars
Fireman
USA
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Posted - 03/26/2011 : 9:39:24 PM
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Dallas,
I hate to ask this question but did they have peg board back in the day?
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dallas_m
Fireman
USA
3014 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2011 : 9:56:06 PM
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Originally posted by BigLars
Dallas,
I hate to ask this question but did they have peg board back in the day?
Larry
Actually, I'd really like to know the answer to that question ... done lots of searching and only learned that psychologists were doing little "pegboard" tests back in the 1930s-40s ... even know that "pegboard" was a trademark but couldn't find a filing date.
Photo above is zoomed in from a 1925 auto parts store found on Shorpy. I zoomed in farther and lightened the photo to make sure here ... it's NOT pegboard, but the hooks look quite similar ... and I've already fudged a few minor things, so I think I'm going to "go for it" on the pegboard. As the individual holes and pegs and tools hanging on those will have a lot of neat 3-D detail.
PS -- "Thanks a lot" to some numbskull forum pal, who shall go nameless (Larry, Larry, BigLars, Larry), for getting me in trouble and pointing out a "must have" 1/35 item on eBay that went for a pretty reasonable price. Yet another of the "too many" projects. Just hope that it doesn't distract me from finish the design on a new On18 kit that guy would want. You dirty, rotten [:-censored][:-censored][:-censored] troublemaker! |
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BigLars
Fireman
USA
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Posted - 03/26/2011 : 10:10:38 PM
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Yeah, that Larry guy has made me do some crazy stuff before.[:-eyebrows][:-fight][:-paperbag]
I have not have a chance to read your recent posts, and I just noticed the poster of Mike Chambers Avitar, nice touch,
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dallas_m
Fireman
USA
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Posted - 03/26/2011 : 10:25:33 PM
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Originally posted by BigLars
I have not have a chance to read your recent posts, and I just noticed the poster of Mike Chambers Avatar, nice touch,
Thanks, I think Mike would appreciate the combination of that image and the "Friendly Service" slogan! The sign has been around to a few different places ... originally made it when I was putting signs on outside of the end wall ... then thought about putting it on the inside of one of the open garage doors, but it looks like it's going to go here. Seems like a very suitable detail for Chambers Gas & Oil.
Photo above is another example from a late-40s auto shop -- poor quality because I had to zoom in really close. Again, hooks very much like what you'd see on pegboard. When I zoom in and play with the brightness/contrast, etc, I can't see any holes ... but the spacing of some of the smaller items suggests that the hooks would be adjustable. Maybe they just screw-in to a piece of plywood or something ... but I think I'm going to end up with a pegboard. Easiest to see the shape of some of the hooks where they hold the adjustable crescent wrenches. |
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dallas_m
Fireman
USA
3014 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2011 : 01:07:08 AM
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Originally posted by Ensign
The place seems to be filling up fast with all kinds of interesting clutter.Tell us, when you finally get around to building the other walls, are you going to make one of them removable for photo taking? I wish now that I would have done that with my Chamber's parts store.I now find it limiting to take photo's just through the door openings.
Greg Shinnie
I forgot this one! YES ... the long side wall opposite all that pegboard/workbench stuff recently posted will be removable for looking inside.
There is a little bit of method to the madness here with the slow wall-building. The two already built will get a substantial amount of wall-mounted detail, so I want to get as much of that done as possible before fixing those walls in place. Front wall will require some working door hinges that I haven't gotten yet and working windows built like the others. Long wall with garage doors will be made to lift out for peeks inside. |
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elwoodblues
Fireman
Canada
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Posted - 03/27/2011 : 08:46:21 AM
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Dallas,
I hate to rain on the parade but while you are adding more stuff to the back wall it still looks way to organized and neat. For example, the gaskets look like they are all lines up in a row and evenly spaced. maybe some of them should overlay each other and there be some gaps between them. Another example is the tool rack, maybe there should be some "missing" tools as there are on the work bench, or in the engine compartment on the car or even have left the shop as they were forgotten on a previous job only to be found by the car owner the next time he opens the hood. I could go on but you get the idea.
Another solution is that Mr Mudgeon is a bonifide neat freak. |
Ron Newby
General Manager
Clearwater Valley Railway Co.
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Edited by - elwoodblues on 03/27/2011 08:47:32 AM |
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Chambers Gas & Oil -- structure build
