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UKGuy
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Posted - 09/14/2010 :  8:50:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit UKGuy's Homepage  Send UKGuy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I'm a great admirer of your fine figure Dallas...

Karl.A
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dallas_m
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Posted - 09/19/2010 :  7:20:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Good investment: After struggling to do 1/35 scale mascara with cheap, crappy brushes, decided it was time to invest in some DaVinci Maestro Kolinsky Sables. Good move! Old brushes shown on the left, the sables are on the right ... they're shaped to hold paint in the body, but remain sharp at the point. Very nice! Got mine from Dick Blick (great service!):

http://www.dickblick.com/products/da-vinci-maestro-kolinsky-sable-round-series-10/

PS -- Might be hard to fully appreciate the difference in the photo here ... but when you load the cheap brushes with paint, they tend to fatten out and loose the point ... the sables hold paint above the point, which feeds the point like an old quill pen and lets you lay down the tiniest little stripe or dot of paint.



Oooh, scary! Alright, this is pretty dang scary, cuz it's about 6x actual size (on a 19" monitor) ... and there's no way I can make one of these little figures look good blown up that big ... BUT ... demonstrates how well those new brushes work. Was able to do almost everything with the #0 sable ... did the mascara & irises with the #3/0 and used the #10/0 to do the pupils and do some touch-up of the mascara, whites of the eyes, etc. You could paint freckles on a gnat with that brush.



A little better: Goal is to make the figure presentable at 2x actual size (maybe 3x if I'm lucky!) ... so I can do some close-ups. Face and chest have received the first layer of glaze to smooth out the transitions in shading, etc. Think this is akin to the "filter" concept, but not sure of the terms there ... will get another round or two of the glaze ... once the arms and hands are done. Making progress on coloring the jeans and figured it was best to get those and the shirt done before painting the arms ... for obvious reasons! ;D
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BigLars
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Posted - 09/19/2010 :  8:25:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dallas great paint job, someone should offer her a jacket she looks cold.
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UKGuy
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Posted - 09/19/2010 :  9:12:50 PM  Show Profile  Visit UKGuy's Homepage  Send UKGuy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dallas_m

.............and lets you lay down the tiniest little stripe or dot of paint..........



...........




I think I can see the pin 'point' accuracy of your brush strokes Dallas, unless of course its cold, and they are actual shadows.......

Either way many thanks for the detailed info on the brushes, I can see now that these Wal-Mart 'fine- art' ones just aint up to the job......

Seems I have another area in which to spend some money for quality, but worthwhile.

Lucy is really looking to be a new standard, amazing work, as with everything else in this build you are taking it all to a new level, and I for one certainly appreciate the time you are taking in explaining it all.

Karl.A

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dallas_m
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Posted - 09/26/2010 :  08:39:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Well, those new paint brushes turned out to be a GREAT investment ... so much better than the cheapos! And, got another new toy to help with the painting -- a little 12-well porcelain palette shown above. Real nice for mixing a bunch of different colors (in small amounts obviously) for shading figures, etc. Also, when mixing small amounts of paint, the little palette is real nice. Less surface area for a given amount of paint = slower drying of paint in palette. (I am remixing paint as needed, but the "useful" life between additives seems to be better with this.)

Wrapping up the On30 project that's kept me busy at work, so hopefully I can get Lefty Lucie finished up here soon (very close) ... then she can help Mr. Mudgeon hang some pegboard in the shop and see about some of those other pesky details. Will post pix of her when finished.

Also got a bunch of new paint colors from Reaper Miniatures "Master Series". Lucie's skin tones are primarily mixed from their "fair skin" series. They have a lot of nice colors ... the metallics look very promising (just got a couple to check) ... and their skin tones are much better than Vallejo (IMHO).
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UKGuy
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Posted - 09/26/2010 :  09:04:38 AM  Show Profile  Visit UKGuy's Homepage  Send UKGuy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I'll be looking forward to seeing what else you do with these new 'toys' Dallas, especially considering what you were able to do with the 'old, cheap, inferior' stuff...

Karl.A
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railman28
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Posted - 09/26/2010 :  12:24:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dallas,
you wrote; "You could paint freckles on a gnat with that brush."
I think you could. Excellent job on the figure.
Good job of selling brushes too Dick Bick should give you a commission.

Bob Harris

It's Only Make Believe

Bob Harris
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MinerFortyNiner
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Posted - 10/03/2010 :  8:05:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit MinerFortyNiner's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Looking good! I will have to check out these brushes.

You will have to ask Lucie to do a 'photo shoot' for the 2011 Chambers Gas & Oil calendar!
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dallas_m
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USA
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Posted - 10/06/2010 :  10:12:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Move over, Lucie!



Well, it looks like Lucie's career in the garage will be short and sweet. My buddy Dave over on the FineScale Forum started going on about how she was just a little too out of place in a 1940s garage ... and, of course, I already knew that and figured she'd be fun anyway.

But, Dave's notes got me looking around, and I found a real cute little replacement who'll be right at home in the shop. Photo above shows Ginger Rogers playing a sweet little tomboy in the 1940 movie "The Primrose Path."



Another shot showing Ginger in a nice little tow truck that will also go well with the scene!



So now I'm deep into the clumsy, awkward task of learning how to sculpt a human face & head ... here's where we are now after some really ugly early stages. Work still has me rather busy, so this is a nice way to stay involved in the project and learn something new! [:-wiltel]

Will post some more photos when there's some noticeable progress ...
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Ensign
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Canada
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Posted - 10/06/2010 :  10:42:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Dallas,your technique for sculpting is neither clumsy or awkward! The photo of your sculpture seems to compare very nicely to the photo of Gingers face. This is something I have thought about trying but never have.I've always wanted 1/87th scale Marx Brothers.[:-eyebrows]

Greg Shinnie
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dallas_m
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Posted - 10/06/2010 :  11:21:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Greg --

Thanks. But I assure you, I've spared you the ugliness of the clumsy/awkward part by skipping ahead to the point where the head started to resemble the subject!

She started out looking like Mrs. Potato Head, then a space alien, then Richard Nixon and finally starting look like Ginger. Details on the clumsy sculpting efforts start here:
http://www.finescalerr.com/smf/index.php?topic=1077.msg18247#msg18247

And, if you go back in the thread a bit, there are links to some rather interesting sculpting vids that you can watch on you-tube etc.

Gotta tell you ... I'm definitely finding it tricky to do this in 1/35 scale ... doing Groucho in HO scale? Well, that's the most ridiculous thing I ever heard! (But go for it)
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UKGuy
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Posted - 10/06/2010 :  11:23:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit UKGuy's Homepage  Send UKGuy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
OK, so just stop already,
and if you even consider scribing in her individual teeth into that smile (like that Japanese guy did) I'm never visiting this thread again.

Awesome work again, I guess you are carving a from resin 'blob', or, did you start from something close and improve it? I guess I'll need to wait for the detailed SbS.

Everytime I stop by here I am astounded.

I have seen 1/87 Marx Bros Greg, not sure if they were Preiser or 'modified' , I'll try to remember where I saw them but I'm sure it was posted here in a thread, probably in the monthly photos with an LP theme, last year some time I think.

Dallas, hopefully you wont mind some 'observations'...... Gingers eye lines and bone structure are right on, her 'chubby' cheeks are just right, but, the tip of the nose is too high, yours turns up slightly, where as hers does not.
Also the smile is slightly off. Gingers top lip turns down from half way to the corner, yours kinda follows the lower lip line, slightly reminds me of Jack Nicholson playing 'the joker' , but an easy fix...... yeah yeah I know I'm being too picky, after all you just carved a 1/35 face.

Well, I'm just gonna sit here in amazement and look at your pics, certainly something I can daydream about contemplating aspiring to.

Karl.A

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UKGuy
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Posted - 10/06/2010 :  11:30:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit UKGuy's Homepage  Send UKGuy a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Just to clarify, my previous post was in no way meant as derogatory to your work, but I was trying to point out some characteristics of Gingers face that were quite distinguishable and recognisable as her features.

Karl.A

Edited by - UKGuy on 10/25/2010 10:24:07 PM
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dallas_m
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Posted - 10/06/2010 :  11:33:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Karl --

Thanks for the detailed notes and suggestions ...much appreciated. It's been quite a process already and I plan to make more refinements to get as close as I can to an actual likeness.

Head is being sculpted with Magic Sculp -- same stuff I used to do some very minor mods on Mr. Mudgeon somewhere around page 3 of this thread. More modifications with that stuff and more details on Ginger in the FineScale thread linked in my previous post.

Going to TRY to fine tune all the little features that will hopefully make her very much Ginger. Stay tuned!
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dallas_m
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Posted - 10/06/2010 :  11:38:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by UKGuy

Just to clarify, my previous post was in no way meant as derogarory to your work, but I was trying to point out some characterists of Gingers face that were quite distinguishable and recogniseable as her features.

Karl.A



Completely understood (from the first) and much appreciated! At this point (during sculpting), any/all feedback is welcome and helpful ... if you wait until she's finished and painted, then I'd just have to clobber you!

Along those lines, the Magic Sculp is a nice medium. I can continue to carve and shape what's there and add more where needed. Nose and mouth are already on the list, and I'll probably fatten up her cheeks just a touch ... still have to do the jaw line, ears, etc

Edited by - dallas_m on 10/06/2010 11:40:37 PM
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