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Carrie Creek
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 Posted - 05/30/2009 : 12:51:45 AM
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New update, sort of;
Thanks for the kind words, Wiley
Had to refigure the grade from Swampscott up to Woodbine flats after getting in the risers around the sawmill and realizing that it was getting too high to soon. So sat down and drew up an elevation chart to see what I needed to do. Found out that if I lowered the grade to 2.5% from the planned 3.5% everything worked out.
So here is the chart and a couple of pics from tonight.
add 53" to the inch scale on the side to get height from the floor. The passing siding at Woodbine is on different levels. Just wanted to be different.
Here the risers have been lowered and starting on the next section of sub roadbed. The big level is to insure levelness and the grade level on top for the grade.
the end blocked up to approximately the correct height.
The saga will continue, Later, Phil
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Carrie Creek
Crew Chief
USA
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Posted - 06/14/2009 : 7:59:38 PM
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A little progress since the last post. I have almost every thing on risers except the spur to Hector's mill and a couple of risers under the logging spur. I have ran out of the 3" strips I had cut from the 1/2" ply. I think that another 8' long strip is all I need but will have to go to the lumber yard after work in the morning and pick up a 2'x4' off cut and rip out some more strips.
So some pics for you perusal:
First up is a pic thru the doorway. The foam is glued down under Swampscott and the mill area. The cork strips are not as I need to get more.
Here you are looking towards Hector's. The base for it is leaning against the wall on the right. It will be the highest point on the layout around 58 1/2" above the floor.
From Hector's looking back at the logging area. It is 58 5/16" high.
Here you can see the split between the two tracks of the run around at Woodbine Flats. The creek goes over a fall there where the blue foam shows at the bottom of the pic. It will be around a 2" high fall.
And lastly an aerial view of the sawmill. I am thinking that instead of a trestle for the log dump track I will use a retaining wall with pilings and earth fill behind. The logs I am having them rolled up the jackslip into the mill.
Enjoy until next update, Phil |
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mainetrains
Fireman
USA
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Posted - 06/14/2009 : 8:24:56 PM
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Looking good, Phil.
Dave [:-banghead] |
"there's something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear"
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Carrie Creek
Crew Chief
USA
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Posted - 06/16/2009 : 1:36:34 PM
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Thanks, Dave.
I'm probabily doing this backward as it seems that I have alot of the basic scenery done before I even lay any tracks.
BTW how are you progressing?
Later, Phil |
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mainetrains
Fireman
USA
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Posted - 06/16/2009 : 2:54:40 PM
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Hey Phil - I'm not sure if you are doing it backwards...I have found myself moving track around because I want to do something differently scenic-wise. Outside of that, slow but sure on the Hard Knox. I've been spending most of my time installing tortoise switch machines, turnout signals and block signals. Nothing very photogenic so I've been slack in posting any updates. I've discovered something amazing about the tortoises...at first I was scared to death of them, figured they were way past my abilities. But you know, once I got the first installed the rest went easy as pie. I've even got 1 (so far) that is 4 inches below the turnout. I've got 10 installed so far with 2 more ready to go and will definately add more once I can afford them. They're fantastic and where I probably won't have more than 20 or so altogether it shouldn't be too hard to keep track of them. I am switching them all from my DT400 throttle. I have even numbered them is sequence around the layout so I can remember which address controls which turnout. At some point I'll be putting little track plans around the layout to help with my memory.
Keep up the good work,
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"there's something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear"
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Frederic Testard
Engineer
France
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Posted - 06/16/2009 : 4:21:42 PM
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I often work the same way as you do, Phil. Basic scenery before track. As soon as you leave enough space to correctly install the track, I generally find it easier because it tends to give a better access to background places.
Good progress, the layout is taking shape nicely. |
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Carrie Creek
Crew Chief
USA
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Posted - 06/19/2009 : 6:12:55 PM
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Thanks, Frederic, When I was drawing this plan out for every line I drew it was how does this fit the scenery, or how does the scenery fit around this? If I had too, to check things, I would draw an elevation section thru the site and if I didn't like it changes would be made. Which is why there is the divider wall on the peninsula as the two sides aren't compatible. I am going to have to stretch belief a little on the end as it is.
Now, I have this spot where I could have a potential problem and hopefully a solution to it. Where the big trestle sits at the end of the peninsula one of the ends of the base board is not supported very well and as it needs to slope down a little as the grade changes there I need to figure out how to support it as there is not one of the radial spokes I can use under it.
Here is the spot, the pencil is pointing to the support and the screw driver at the unsupported end. The distance between is 6.5" the ply base is 1/4"
a batten across the gap to check for flow.
sub base removed for access to the support. the red check is the support needed to have the leg brace.
The leg brace carved to grade curve.
leg brace installed
sub base reinstalled ready for the foam to be glued down.
and I hope the problem taken care of.
And the saga continues on and on and....
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Frederic Testard
Engineer
France
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Posted - 06/19/2009 : 7:16:20 PM
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| Efficient and pragmatic solution to your problem, Phil. It's better to do it now than try to solve the problem later... |
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Carrie Creek
Crew Chief
USA
950 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2009 : 1:00:25 PM
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Yes, Frederic much better to do now as once the foam is glued down there will be no access except from underneath. I don't think I could have been able to fix it this way from underneath.
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Mainframer
Engine Wiper
USA
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Posted - 06/20/2009 : 4:53:27 PM
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| Phil, That was a very nice way to provide support. Is that the last of the base? You should be getting close to laying track. Looking very good. Tom |
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Carrie Creek
Crew Chief
USA
950 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2009 : 7:01:16 PM
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Yes, Tom, All of the base ply is screwed down. Gluing the foam under Woodbine Flats as we speak. I do not believe that I have any other places that are not well braced.
Later, Phil |
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rfmicro
Crew Chief
USA
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Posted - 06/20/2009 : 10:05:13 PM
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Hi Phil,
I have been studying your layout since you first posted. Great work. Did you, by chance, test your train engines (with maximum # of cars desired) on a 2.5% grade first? A 3.5% grade would probably be a non-starter or slow at best.
Regards,
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Carrie Creek
Crew Chief
USA
950 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2009 : 10:39:47 PM
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Man, NOW you ask this[:-banghead], but yes, Trent I did indeed run them up a test grade. 4% with 4 cars. This was on DC and not DCC. I also had brought my Bachmann 0-6-0t with DCC up to Mainframer's once and ran it up his 4% grade without problems until I tried every car we had out. 7-9 cars I think, its been awhile, which we had to double head with his 3 truck Bachmann shay.
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Carrie Creek
Crew Chief
USA
950 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2009 : 10:55:32 PM
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Trent, after posting that last post I remembered that I had a question on the DCC forum and I couldn't remember if the number of cars pulled was mentioned and they were. It was 9. This is under "Running loco on different layout" Which now is on page 4 of that forum if you are wondering. I believe that I had 3 of the cars on the grade before I started spinning.
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Mainframer
Engine Wiper
USA
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Posted - 06/21/2009 : 01:40:11 AM
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| Trent, I can push 5 empty flat cars and my Barnhart loader up my 4% grades with the Bachmann 3 truck shay without any problems. My Mantua 2-6-6-2 with tender can also push the cars up the grade. It was fun double heading with Phil on the layout. We each had a cab for our locos so had to match speeds just like the 1:1's. Tom |
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Carrie Creek Land Co. construction series
