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Frederic Testard
Engineer
France
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 Posted - 12/06/2009 : 4:18:36 PM
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Nice to see this progress on the layout, Phil. The scene you're currently working on should be very rewarding as it will let you add many home and nature-made details.
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Carrie Creek
Crew Chief
USA
982 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2009 : 4:54:08 PM
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Thanks, Dave, I am looking forward to when it comes to life also
Peter, Thanks, I would like it to have a bunch of character, hope to pull it off.
Thanks, Frederic, I hope to get very inspired
Mike, Thanks and here are some pics of the prototype:
I would like to find out if it is possible to mill out a stamp/punch tool of the sides so that I could just slide the brass strip in and whack it with my hammer and have a side made instead of having to hand drill and snip out. |
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Carrie Creek
Crew Chief
USA
982 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2009 : 3:25:49 PM
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Here is a little scenery update,
I have been making some test retaining walls and have discovered that my intial idea will not work as intended. I was planning on using 1/32" basswood for the walls but its too thin as I kept breaking thru scribing the boards, so will go to 1/16". And cutting out 5' segments and then gluing them back together to fit the curve is too tedious. The pilings are 1/8" dowels scored with my razor saw.
Anyway here are some pics of the weathering I attempted. I used full strength sepeia ink bushed up from the bottom and a 50/50 solution of gray acrylic paint and water bushed down from the top and then washed with black A/I.
and a close up
I see that I will have to make the walls alittle lower.
Do I need more colour? the pond level should be about 1/3 of the way up.
Thoughts? Thin the gray more?
Thanks,
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BBLmber
Fireman
USA
4314 Posts |
Posted - 12/11/2009 : 4:40:58 PM
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Phil, you mite not have to lower your wall if this is for your log dump. Most log dumps have a brow log or other fixture that is level with the edge of the log bunk, to keep the logs from getting caught between the car and the slide.
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Mainframer
Engine Wiper
USA
305 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2009 : 01:38:25 AM
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| Phil, I like the coloring of the walls and the way the pilings came out after roughing them up. Was wondering how long the wall section would be if cut out in one piece? Could you steam the section over your tea kettle and then bend into place. Then you can glue on the pilings. Were you planning on putting in a brow log as Mark suggested? Tom |
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Rick
Administrator
USA
17863 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2009 : 07:37:08 AM
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Phil, the harp stand is very impressive. Nice job!
The color of the wall is different in both pictures, at least on my monitor. I guessing the color is closest to the top picture, which looks good to me. |
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Carrie Creek
Crew Chief
USA
982 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2009 : 1:25:00 PM
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Mark, These are just the retaining walls, in the middle will be the brow log and slide.
Tom, Sorry, I beat you to your suggestion, went back to Hobby Lobby andas they were out of 1/16" stock I picked up 3/32" instead. I scored both sides and carved in the grain and boards and then soaked them, I blocked them in place and let them dry overnite.
Rick, Thanks for the kind words on the harp stand. I just CA ed this together and it slipped a little. A yes, it does move the elect. switch underneath.
The 1st pic is more accurate for colour rendition
Here are a couple of pics showing the placement of the brow log.
The brow goes where the engine is sitting
the water outlet is the opening to the right of the wall
and the first draft of the brow log and slide.
all of those figuring is to see how much wood I need and to make sure I don't have to buy a long piece just for one short.
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Mainframer
Engine Wiper
USA
305 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2009 : 10:39:18 PM
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| Phil, of course no matter how you figure it, when you cut it out you will need just one more piece than you have. I also am thinking that to save a little room in the pond you might put the slide slope at 60 degrees instead of 45. Tom |
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Carrie Creek
Crew Chief
USA
982 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2009 : 12:13:54 AM
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Tom,
I think at 60 degrees it will look too steep, that the logs wouldn't touch it. something in-between I think I could live with. At 60 the slides hit the base before the last uprights.
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Carrie Creek
Crew Chief
USA
982 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2010 : 3:36:01 PM
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Problems, Problems, This little bit of test scenery that I did has not turned out well. After drying out it has shrunk and curled up at the edges pulling up the glued down cork road bed.
This is what I did so somewhere along the way I goofed up.
Dec. 5 I laid the plaster cloth down over some wetted, wadded up newspaper and then I made some celluclay, glue & water mix using the water from the cloth dip tray.I added some brown Tempra paint for colour. This I glopped on the wet cloth and molded the contours in and let dry.
Dec. 12 when I took the pics of the retaining wall colours for posting there was no sign of shrinkage. the stuff felt dry and not cold to the touch.
Now, as of last week it has shrunk. I had to cut the cork away and then the whole shebang I was able to lift off. The newspaper dropped off and the thinner sections of the mix I was able to just peel off of the plaster cloth. Where I have just the cloth laid on the foam it is sticking just fine.
Here are some pics of the stuff back sitting in place:
Any ideas? Thanks for looking and for helpfull comments. |
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mainetrains
Fireman
USA
1373 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2010 : 4:17:11 PM
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That's a puzzler Phil, although I guess where you say there was no shrinkage where you just had the plaster cloth it has something to do with the newspaper. I did the same type of thing on my layout...plaster cloth over newspaper but I didn't wet the newspaper first.
No problems. If you try it again just crumple up the newspaper without wetting it. Masking tape will hold it until you get the plaster cloth on.
Hope this helps a little.
Dave [:-banghead] |
"there's something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear"
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Neil M
Fireman
Australia
2173 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2010 : 6:43:59 PM
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| I like the way your switch stands came out. Are you concerned about the knob on the top of the slide switch wearing away? |
Built a waterfront HO layout in Ireland http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22161 but now making a start in On30 in Australia |
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Philip
Fireman
USA
1398 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2010 : 8:16:38 PM
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 great progress Mr.Phil!
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Carrie Creek
Crew Chief
USA
982 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2010 : 9:59:51 PM
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Dave, Thanks for the response. The reason I wetted the paper was that it was not wanting to stay down. I would like the ground to have a more convex shape than concaved or atleast straightier. The cloth that I used was old (5yrs?) and it didn't seem to have much plaster. I am thinking that maybe I didn't get enough glue mixed in with the celluclay mix. I really did not measure anything.
Neil, No I have not thought about the knob wearing down. Might have to sleeve them with some thin brass strips but well wait to see if the wear becomes an issue. I will be able to remove the stands easily if there is.
Philip, Thanks, for the encourgement but I have had this big reversal so back to square one. |
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Carrie Creek
Crew Chief
USA
982 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2010 : 7:50:16 PM
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A couple of updates.
First, I have been working on a control panel/shelf to hold the command station, so here are some pics.
The first two are the shelf installed.
I removed the base of the command station and drilled 4 holes and inserted nylon #8 bolts and doubled nutted them and then replaced the base. The bolts go thru the shelf and are nutted there. The station actually sits on the nuts instead of the orginal feet. This keeps me from distorting the base by over tighting.
I made a small shelf to hold the transformer and screwed it to the back leg. I put some edging around the shelf to keep the transformer in place.
and here everything is in place waiting to be wired up. The cord you see hooked to the station is for the program track which will sit on top of the dresser.
The second is that the person that was going to see if he could make me a punch for the sides of the switch stand has not responded so I am going with something else. I need to do some engineering so will post progress later. |
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Carrie Creek Land Co. construction series
